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    • Yeah I figured, unlikely I'll need credit anyway mortgage all paid off etc so I'll take that on the chin and learn from the experience. Probably would've beaten that too had I remembered the protocol, first time ever going through the process though sob it wasn't familiar to me  Oh well  
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Have you spoken to a CID detective or did you speak to the uniformed PG Tips chimp on the desk?

 

Dont expect the chimp to be able to understand anything more complex than the life and death need to record MOT and car insurance details.

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Sent Student Loans a S.77 CCA request, their 12 days is up on Friday.

I've spotted a get out for them as the Act states that Section 77 doesnt apply to non-commercial loans.

 

Do student loans (with interest set at the Retail Price Index inflation rate) count as "commercial" loans?

 

Cant really see it myself. Doh!

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Its up to what you want to achieve.

 

Stop paying the alleged debt off Get the alleged debt written off, make the alleged debt unenforceable, get all the interest back that you paid or just lie low in the knowledge they cant hassle you anymore.

 

I'm in the same situation. Havent been hassled since the 12 days expired. that was last November.

 

Ive now got up enough courage to try to get it all written off and get all payments made to them returned.

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Email I recieved from the ICO.

 

8th June 2007

Case Reference Number RFA0xxxxxxxx

Dear noomill060

Further to your email dated 31 May 2007 I understand that Barclaycard do not have any credit agreement signed by you.

You believe that this means that there is no reason for them to process your data at all or place default notices on your credit record and have asked if you will need to make another complaint to get the default removed.

I should advise that in cases such as this, where an individual has requested a copy of a credit agreement and the Bank has been unable to supply this document this does not automatically make the default inaccurate, nor does it mean that Barclaycard has no reason to process your data at all.

From the correspondence you have sent it would appear that you do not dispute the existence of the debt with Barclaycard. It may be helpful to explain that the failure of a creditor to produce a copy of the signed credit agreement is not, on its own, evidence that your debt does not exist and should therefore not appear on your credit file. If the credit grantor can supply some other evidence of the agreement and you have no evidence to contradict this then it is likely to be proper for the debt to continue to be recorded on your credit file.

The Information Commissioner’s Office regulates and enforces the Data Protection Act 1998, amongst other legislation, and we have no involvement in regulating this aspect of the CCA. The CCA is regulated by the Office of Fair Trading and as such the matter you have raised (the lack of credit agreement) does not fall within our remit.

We would therefore suggest that if you wish to pursue this matter further you contact the Office of Fair Trading. For your information their contact details are:

Office of Fair Trading

Fleetbank House

2-6 Salisbury Square

London

EC4Y 8JX

www.oft.gov.uk

Enquiries – 08457-224-499

I trust that this clarifies the matter. This case will now be closed.

Yours sincerely

Laura Hennessy

Casework and Advice Officer

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172 Statements by creditor or owner to be binding

(1) A statement by a creditor or owner is binding on him if given under—

section 77(1),

section 78(1),

and other sections.

In other words, it would appear to demonstrate bad faith if they now try to add other bits which should have been included in the alleged agreement they have provided.

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Phoned TS today about exactly the same thing. First thing they asked was did you sign it?

 

Yes

 

Is the APR mentioned

 

No

 

Oh dear. Could you send the document for us to check out?- from what you've said, you have an absolute defence.

 

Told me write back to the DCA and tell them not to bother trying to enforce until they've complied fully with my s.78 request.

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Sent the agreement, I mean application form off to TS today.

 

Sent this to Wescot:

 

15 June 2007

 

WITHOUT PREJUDICE

Your ref: xxxxxxxxxxx

 

Dear Sir,

I am writing to inform you that this account is in dispute as I believe the figure that you claim is owed to your clients “Barclaycard” consists substantially or entirely of unlawful (and therefore unenforceable) penalty charges and I do not acknowledge this alleged debt.

 

Additionally, you have not complied with my s.78 CCA request received by you on 10 April 2007 for a true, executed copy of the original Credit Agreement. The document supplied by your client does NOT contain the prescribed terms as per s.60 of the CCA 1974 and is therefore unenforceable.

As the statutory 12 working days have elapsed, and a further calendar month has since elapsed, you have committed an offence and as long as you remain in default, you may not enforce the alleged agreement.

Additionally, a similar s.78 request made last November to another recovery agency employed by your client, also remains ignored and in default.

I would draw to your attention the OFT’s guidelines with regard to debt collection and the Protection from Harassment Act 1997.

Yours Faithfully,

 

 

 

This letter is written entirely without prejudice to and under reservation of my whole rights and pleas and neither the letter (nor any copy of it) nor its content may be produced, exhibited, referred to or founded upon in any Court action or in any other proceedings except (a) with my express written consent or (b) at my instance.

Cc: Trading Standards

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Spoke to TS today. They had recieved the document that I recieved in response to my CCA request.

 

NO APR

 

NO credit limit

 

NO repayment terms

 

= No agreement!

 

They suggest I write to the CEO of Barclaycrud and tell them to remove my default- pronto.

 

They also said the document has been passed to another dept with a view to charges against Barclaycrud and possibly Wescot as well under s.78 (5) They view this as extremely serious, well thats what the bloke I spoke to said.

 

We shall see.

 

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I wouldnt put this in:

 

"Trading Standards are questioning a major UK bank under caution with a view to bringing a criminal prosecution against them;"

You dont KNOW this for a fact, you are only repeating what I have told you about my phone call to TS. For all you know, I could be making this up.

Its really not a good idea to base statements such as this on the say so of anonymous well meaning strangers. :)

When I get hard copy from TS about my case I will put it up here and let you make of it what you will.

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