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Help with log book loans can the bos be voided under section 9/10


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is the credit agreement that is signed by log book loans , after yours (signature) the same person as on the bill of sale

 

if the signatures are the same then the bill of sale is void

 

we now have case law to back it up and log book loans have no security over the vehicle

 

it just becomes a normal unsecured credit agreement and if they try taking the vehicle then its theft

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THE JUDGEMENT

 

Nine Regions Ltd (Trading as Logbook Loans Ltd) v The Office of Fair Trade 2011 UKUT 280 (AAC) (13 JULY 2011)

 

The Attestation Issue was framed as follows:

 

“Is a bill of sale rendered void under sections 8 and 10 of the Bills of Sale Act (1878) Amendment Act 1882 in circumstances where its execution by the Appellants’ customer, i.e. the grantor, is attested by the employee of the Appellants who negotiates, agrees and signs on behalf of the Appellants, the credit agreement between the customer and the Appellants?”

 

For the above reasons I would give the answer “yes” to the Attestation Issue.

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give them that judgement

 

all it is now is a normal credit agreement as there is no security by a bill of sale

 

but

 

the credit agreement and bill of sale needs to have ben signed by the same person to invalidate the bos

 

if they try and take the car, call the police as it will now be theft

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read paragraph 3 AND 4 again

 

then paragraph 94

 

then paragraph 102

 

they are talking out there backsides

 

also

 

the court thrEW out there whole case on the 17 auguest and found for the oft

 

ime just waiting for the transcript to be released

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