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    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

      Please can you advise what I need to do today to get this done. 
       

      Many thanks 
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    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
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      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

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Problems from day 1, what rights to a refund ?


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Hi,

 

Last week I bought a 2nd hand car from a car dealer. They had just fitted a new fuel pump because the one in the car was faulty.

A couple of days later, when I filled the car up, there was a smell of petrol inside the car. I lifted the rear seat up to have a look and the "well" that the fuel pump is located in was full of petrol. I phoned the trader who said to bring it back and they would sort it out, which I did.

They didnt resolve the problem though as petrol was still leaking into the car. Back on the phone again to tell the trader it was still faulty, he said it was probably the O ring that needed replacing and he would order one, that was yesterday.

Today took the car back to have the new O ring fitted, which they did, by the time I got home petrol had leaked out again and if anything its even worse than it was before.

I have just returned from a local garage where I went to ask for advice on the problem, and the man I spoke to used to work for the main dealer for 9 years and he said he was 99% certain that it will be the fuel tank that is deformed as they are only plastic and its a common fault with them.

 

Anyway to get to the point what are my rights to a refund as I no longer want the car, as I understand it the car was sold "not fit for purpose" as it was faulty from day one. If I can I would rather avoid the writing of letters etc until I have spoken to him, I would like to know where I stand beforehand in case he doesnt play ball and cough up. Then go via the more "official" route.

 

Thanks,

Mick.

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Clearly not fit for the purpose to the extent that you have been deprived of substantially the whole benefit of the contract.

You have a right to a refund.

Take it back and ask for a refund.

If he won't give the refund then leave it with him - on his forecourt, not on the road - with the keys and walk away. Get photos of its condition.

 

Document everything and go to the county court and issue proceedings for the return of the money without any delay and don't bother about the warning.

 

Also tell him that you will inform the police that he is supplying a car in a dangerous condition - can't remember the regs for this - look them up. He is committing an offence. Inform TS as well.

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