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    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

      Please can you advise what I need to do today to get this done. 
       

      Many thanks 
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    • Housing Association property flooding. https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/438641-housing-association-property-flooding/&do=findComment&comment=5124299
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    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

      OT APPROVED, 365MC637, FAROOQ, EVRi, 12.07.23 (BRENT) - J v4.pdf
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Hello!

 

I've been a regular lurker on this forum for quite some time. This site is fantastic!

 

I've been a customer of Smile since I was 18 (some 5 years ago) and never had any problems until I became unemployed in 2004. I couldn't repay my credit card so I went through a Free Debt Advice company through the Job Centre. Smile, bless them, created a repayment plan for my Debit account not my credit so it took several months for them to recognise the error and change the repayment plan to the right account. Obviously during the time it took them to sort it out I was receiving nasty letters and phone calls from them almost every week demanding payment. A stroke of luck meant I could pay off my credit card in one go which meant I didn't need to repay it anymore.

 

Unfortunately my luck didn't stretch to my overdraft on my debit card. I became self-employed as a drum teacher September last year and all was going well until a family member became ill and I had to stop work for 2 months. Obviously business was a bit slow to pick up again after the 2 month gap and I'm still being supported by friends and family now. In March 2006 I went over my overdraft by 1p! The charges amounted to £174 which I successfully claimed back. But by the time Smile had paid the charges back my account had incurred even more charges and I was back over my over-draft.

 

So this is where I am now: I filed another claim regarding the new charges but this time Smile are not responding. The charges keep mounting up too! I've sent the default letter this time as they've defaulted my account. I don't have online access anymore (they've blocked my account - I obviously have online access as I'm posting here! lol!) so I can't see what the charges are. I received a letter today saying I have to pay the total amount of my overdraft (£600) plus over £400 in charges - the letter also cost £60 to send apparently. The thing is I sent them several letters last week which they haven't acknowledged yet which really frustrates me - they just keep sending the threatening letters automatically. 'You have 7 days to respond' (which had the Co-op letterhead) and I get a letter the next day saying 'actually no, you don't, we're cancelling your account' (which had the Smile letterhead).

 

I'm going to apply for my account records (with my £10) as I need to see what the charges are but I'm concerned that by the time they respond to it they'll have passed my details onto a Debt Recovery agency even though I've sent them the Data Protection letter.

 

I have a new account which is good but it's only with a cash card as I really don't want anything with an overdraft but obviously this makes life a little more complicated!

 

Anyway, any advice would be good as I'm starting to get a little stressed!

 

Jo xx

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They get pretty nasty quickly and I can well believe the 174 pounds over 1p overdrawn part because they did the same to me.

Do the S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) as soon as possible but also mail them seperately informing them of your intention to reclaim the charges as they are unlawful, though informal it might stop them wasting their time (and yours) with debt collectors.

 

Your case stands with the original bank. This is all in my own opinion of course, however you can be sure they will delay repayment of the charges for as long as possible. I started in May and they just told me they need another 8 weeks, if nessecery keep the debt collectors upto date with your court action so they know the debt they have bought is in contention

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22nd Sept MCOL filed vs smile bank :!:

 

27th Sept LBA amount paid by smile

 

6th Oct Full MCOL amount paid by smile

 

Result = :D

 

 

 

 

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I would also tell them that you are placing the account in dispute and that should prevent any further action until the matter is resolved. ie you get your bank charges back.

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