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Hi all just an update, received a letter from the court saying Halifax intend to defend in full dated 28th July. Hopefully not to much longer now really need the money!!

 

Hi Vampish

 

Have you not heard anything yet from Halifax either.

 

Mine claim was ack on the 3 Aug and Halifax intend to defend in full.

 

I keep checking my account on a regular basis.

 

Libby

 

Prelim Letter sent 14 June 2006 (£2,301.00

rec Letter from the bank on 21 June 2006 to say sorry to hear that

rec another letter 24 june 2006 refund £468.00

3 July 2006 i sent my LBA

heard nothing

sent my N1 claim form in on 17 July 2006

Offer from Halifax for £938.00 20 July 2006.

22 July 2006 rec claim form back from the court.

Ack by Halifax intend to defend in full on 3 Aug.

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Hi all while my claim was going through they have taken another £489 in 10 days, I would like this back is it possible?

 

Has anyone been succesful in claiming back second charges and not had thier bank acccount closed?

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yes read TBeckett100's thread for proof!! was within 5 days if i remember right :-))

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05-01-06 prelim sent

14-06-06 LBA 1 Sent (claim for 1 yr)

21-06-06 Offer recieved for £312

31-07-06 recieved 6yrs statements

31-07-06 LBA 2 sent (Request £1,611)

14-8-06 Money Claim submitted
:D

15-8-06 Issued

23-8-06 Aknowledged

24-8-06 Offer for £650

30th - 8 - 06 PAID IN FULL!!!!!!!!
:D

Shaz n dave vs Barclays :smile:

26-7-06 Prelim letter sent (Request £1,585)

2-8-06 Confirmation that pre lim recieved, been passed to relavent dept!!!?

10-8-06 LBA sent (request as above)

18-8-06 £720 offered - (accepted as a partial settlement to full claim)

4-9-06 MCOL - LETS GO!!

My Little Bruv vs Lloyds:-x

9-8-06 Pre-lim sent (Request £295)

16-8-06 received letter (sorry... will be passed to ..... blah blah)

23-8-06 LBA sent

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send a pre lim about the charges, should be enough, as I said click on the TBeckett100 name tag then go to his main thread and go to the last 2 pages it is in there much better than me just saying it! it will make you feel good inside :grin:

 

Also the Mods like it when they see you are reading around a bit to find info they have already answered :rolleyes:

 

best of luck

 

Dave x

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05-01-06 prelim sent

14-06-06 LBA 1 Sent (claim for 1 yr)

21-06-06 Offer recieved for £312

31-07-06 recieved 6yrs statements

31-07-06 LBA 2 sent (Request £1,611)

14-8-06 Money Claim submitted
:D

15-8-06 Issued

23-8-06 Aknowledged

24-8-06 Offer for £650

30th - 8 - 06 PAID IN FULL!!!!!!!!
:D

Shaz n dave vs Barclays :smile:

26-7-06 Prelim letter sent (Request £1,585)

2-8-06 Confirmation that pre lim recieved, been passed to relavent dept!!!?

10-8-06 LBA sent (request as above)

18-8-06 £720 offered - (accepted as a partial settlement to full claim)

4-9-06 MCOL - LETS GO!!

My Little Bruv vs Lloyds:-x

9-8-06 Pre-lim sent (Request £295)

16-8-06 received letter (sorry... will be passed to ..... blah blah)

23-8-06 LBA sent

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Hi Yes sorry I started a new thread because I couldn't change the title.

 

**WON**

 

Paid into my bank account 3rd August I could not believe it I was so happy!!!

 

How about you? fingers crossed here.

 

Nothing yet but congratulations to you. I have everything crossed here, just waiting.

 

Libby

 

Prelim Letter sent 14 June 2006 (£2,301.00

rec Letter from the bank on 21 June 2006 to say sorry to hear that

rec another letter 24 june 2006 refund £468.00

3 July 2006 i sent my LBA heard nothing.

sent my N1 claim form in on 17 July 2006

Offer from Halifax for £938.00 20 July 2006.

22 July 2006 rec claim form back from the court.

Ack by Halifax intend to defend in full on 3 Aug.

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Well done Vampish. I filed against Halifax this morning so I'm looking for a result as good as yours.

Bank of Scotland

Letter asking for Statements - 24 Apr 06

Recieve Some Statements - 29 June 06 (rest recd. on 18th Jul)

Planning claim - 30 June 06

Preliminery Letter Sent 3rd July 06 - claiming £4143 (recorded delivery)

Standard letter recieved - no offer - 13 July 06

LBA sent 18 July 06 (signed for on 19th)

Recd. phone call 21st July 06, offered £210 then £600. Refused.

Moneyclaim Online submitted for £4398 (11th Aug 06)

Letter rec.d informing of full reimbursement within 5 days (23 Aug 06)

 

MBNA Credit Card

Planning claim - 2 Jul 06

Letter asking for statements sent 3 July 06 (recorded delivery)Preliminery letter sent recorded 8th Aug 06

Sent LBA 22 Aug 06

 

Applied for RBS parachute account - 3 July 06

More details needed, posted current statemets - 12 July 06

Account open - 14 july 06

 

 

 

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