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Give answer here  the claim is for sum of 1650£ due by the defendant under an agreement regulated by the consumer credit act 1974 for capital one account with an account reference of xxxx tge dependent failed to maintain contractual payments required by the agreement and a default notice was served under s87(1) of the consumer credit act 1973 which has not been complied with the debt was legally assigned to the claimant on 18/03-21 notice of which has been given to defendant  the claim incudes statutory interest under s69 of the county court act 184 at a rate of 8%per annum from the date of assignment to the date of issue of these proceedings in the sum of 132£ the claimant claims the sum of 1782£   What is the total value of the claim? Give answer here 1977£ Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? Give answer here Not sure  received a letter on 24 march stating Letter of claim- you have 30 days to prevent legal action Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? Give answer here No Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? Give answer here Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Give answer here Credit card When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? Give answer here After Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Give answer here Online Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Give answer here Yes Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Give answer here Debt purchaser Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? Give answer here Unsure Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Give answer here Unsure Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? Give answer here Not that he recalls Why did you cease payments? Give answer here Lost job What was the date of your last payment? Give answer here Feb 2023 Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? Give answer here No Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? Give answer here No What you need to do now.    Answer the questions above   If you have not already done so – send a CCA request to the claimant for a copy of your agreement (If Applicable) (except for Overdraft/ Mobile/Telephone accounts)   Send a CPR31.14 request to the solicitor named on the claim form for copies of documents mentioned/implied within the claim form. There are two different versions - one for Loans/Credit cards the other for Current accounts   Request 1 - Loans/Credit Cards     Request 2 - Current Accounts     You may use a CPR part 18 request for any other information (not request documents) that you might require in order to defend yourself. Please note that CPR 18 is specifically for Fast Track claims and although technically the claim has yet to be allocated to a track the claimant may refuse to comply for this reason.   If you require CPR Part 18 - this will need to be drafted specifically.   If you are not planning on defending for one reason or another – then you will need to complete an Income and Expenditure form and contact the Solicitor with your proposal. The N9a is already enclosed in the claim pack for Admittance which should be sent to the solicitor named on the claim form   If you are considering making a partial admittance N9b must be completed and returned to the court. 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    • Hi, I have an old outstanding debt from 1994 due to MBNA for £20,000. The debt has been passed to various DCAs and is currently with PRA Group.  I sent them a CCA letter in January 2024. They acknowledged this letter and stated they would come back when they had more information, however the information did not arrive within the 12 working day scenario.. I have just received a copy of the agreement which goes back to 1994 from them. In their response letter they have stated " Please find enclosed documentation received to date: we are waiting further documents in order to complete your request. We have currently deemed this debt as unenforceable which means we are not able to take court or further action against you to recover the outstanding balance". They then go on to state "we are still legally entitled to:  1.Contact you to ask and repay what you owe 2.Pass your details onto a third party collection agency 3. Continue to report your account with the credit reference bureaux (as appropriate)". I'm at a loss as to what I should do next and would appreciate any guidance on this matter. I am currently paying £5.00 pcm. TIA      
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Just recieved this letter, I presume it is an update for the Account Dispute letter I sent them.

 

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Looks like they are struggling to find an enforceable CCA to me. Fingers crossed!

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Here we are! :D

 

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Surely they have failed to set out the Default Notice with CCA Regs???

 

- No CCA!

- 2 Default Notices Served without any explanation.

- Both Default notices served whilst account is in Dispute.

- Account Terminated on the same day of the 2nd Default Notices dealine date (21st May)!

 

Does this now mean they can only claim for arrears if they provided me with a enforceable CCA?

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Can anyone confirm if Egg have messed their Default Notice up?

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Hi Me Against Them :)

Right, as I see it, although both DN's seem to me to be legally compliant re dates & format, as the first one stated it would terminate the account if not rectified, then the second was issued on a terminated account. I'm not sure how important or otherwise this is. Further input required on that.

 

What would seem to be important, however, is the fact that the account was in dispute due to failure to comply with your CCA request.

As you will have pointed out to them in Dispute letter:

Furthermore you should be aware that a creditor is not permitted to take ANY

Action against an account whilst it remains in dispute.

 

The lack of a credit agreement is a very clear dispute and as such the following applies:

 

* You may not demand any payment on the account, nor am I obliged to offer any payment to you.

* You may not add further interest or any charges to the account.

* You may not pass the account to a third party.

* You may not register any information in respect of the account with any credit reference agency.

* You may not issue a default notice related to the account.

 

So I believe that invalidates both DN's.

What would strengthen your case is if the sums demanded in the DN's were inaccurate, eg if they included any unfair penalty charges.

Did you have late payment fees, overlimit fees etc on the account?

If so now is probably the time to send a Subject Access Request to give you all the data they hold on you and calculate what, if any, unfair charges have been applied. It costs £10, but should be worth it.

This post will bump you up for comments from the morning shift, any other input welcome :)

Also, have a read of my thread on DN's: http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/debt-collection-industry/200901-anatomy-default-notice.html

I'm no expert myself but I've been putting together useful links on the subject.

Hope this helps,

Elsa x

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Thanks Elsa.

 

I look at my bills to see if there are any unfair charges, which I suspect there will be. ;)

 

Also I'll send a Subject Access Request.

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Egg have now passed the account to Direct Legal & Collections for full and immediate collection. At least thats what DLC's letter is demanding.

 

Think I'll send the following....

 

Dear Sir or Madam,

 

I must admit that I am rather bemused as to why this account has been passed to you, as it is in dispute with ***DCA*** and has been since ***Date***

Not only is this a breach of OFT collection guidelines, but also in breach of the Consumer Credit Act 1974 and Data Protection Act 1998

 

 

As ***DCA*** is now in default of my Consumer Credit Act request, Office of Fair Trading Collection Guidelines and s10 Data Protection Act request, I consider this account to be in SERIOUS DISPUTE.

 

As you are aware while my Consumer Credit Act request remains in default, enforcement action is NOT permitted; under s127 this constitutes a complete defence at law. Consequentially any legal action you pursue will be averred as both UNLAWFUL and VEXATIOUS.

 

Now I would respectfully suggest that this account is returned to ***DCA*** for resolution of these defaults and breaches, as ***DCA*** cannot lawfully pursue any enforcement activities.

 

If ***DCA***chooses to ignore my dispute and attempt enforcement, I will initiate legal action and file reports with the appropriate authorities, including, but not limited to, Trading Standards, Office of Fair Trading, Information Commissioners Office, Financial Ombudsman Service and possible court action.

 

I hope that this will not be necessary and an acceptable solution can be accomplished.

 

I would appreciate your due diligence in this matter.

 

Yours faithfully

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Are Egg giving me the run around here? they have sent this letter but I have still not received the CCA they say I should have.

 

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Its been a few days since I recieved this letter stating I should have received my CCA, when I haven't. I think I need to send them a letter saying that the account is still in dispute as I have not recieved the supossed CCA they say they have sent me.

 

Anybody know of any appropriate letters that are already on this site?

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If it was me I would just send them the reminder of your request, and state that contrary to their letter of xxxx, you HAVE NOT received the requested copy of your CCA - which you still demand, and they by law, are required to supply.

 

End of ..... ;)

 

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DLC have responded to my letter by placing my account on hold until they have receieved additional information from Egg. :p

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Today I received my CCA which was included in my SAR documentation.

 

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looks like many other unenforeable CCA's I seen around CAG.

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Thanks Abby25, Yes I have read PT's thread and am of the impression that this aggrement is the same as most other unenforceable CCA's.:)

 

I now seem to have about 25k of questionable debt, which is a massive plus. I almost filed for bankruptcy a few month back! So glad I didn't!

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Hey thats why this site, and the experts who post, is so valuable to us all !!!!

 

In the process of getting my own CCA, which I expect to be the same as yours, the accts about 10 yrs or so old - so hoping that I will be able to challenge on the same basis.

 

So, get your challenge in, and keep the thread updated !!!

 

Good luck ....:)

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Just received an update from dlc stating my account is still on hold until Egg can provide them with a copy of my CCA...I wonder why they can provide it as part of my earlier SAR but not for my original request, which led me to dispute the account.:confused:

 

Not that I'm complaining!:p

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