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Today is the last day for Cobbetts to respond to my CPR Part 18 request for disclosure of actual costs.

 

I know that by them requesting allocation to M-Track they will be forced to disclose (or not) but should I try and hurry things along by giving them a little chase on the Part 18 request and if so, how do I go about it. Shall I ring them, write to them or just go back to court for an order?

 

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Well I've just completed an application for an order to made requiring them to respond, that way it automatically comes to the attention of the judge.

 

Like I said, I know they will be required to disclose when the claim is allocated but I might as well speed the process up if I can.

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Filed an application for an order requiring Natwest to disclose "The actual cost of administering the alleged breach giving rise each charge particularised by the Claimant". Should be before the District Judge in the next couple of days.

 

The crowd holds its breath as Shieber makes a strong attacking move on the heart of the defence - will it be "cheque mate?"

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Had this from the Court this morning and need some serious guidance now.

 

IT IS ORDERED THAT

 

1. THE CASE BE ALLOCATED TO THE MULTI TRACK

 

2. EACH PARTY GIVE STANDARD DISCLOSURE TO EVERY OTHER PARTY BY LIST

 

3. DISCLOSURE IS LIMITED TO STANDARD DISCLOSURE BY 4PM ON THE 22ND DECEMBER 2006

 

4. THE LATEST DATE FOR DELIVERY OF THE LISTS IS 19 JANUARY 2007

 

5. REQUESTS FOR INSPECTION OR COPIES BE MADE BY 26 JANUARY 2007

 

6. STATEMENTS TO BE EXCHANGED TO WITNESSES OF FACT SIMULTANEOUSLY BY 4PM ON 10 FEBRUARY 2007

 

7. PERMISSION IS NOT GIVEN TO USE EXPERT EVIDENCE, NONE BEING NECESSARY

 

8. LISTING QUESTIONNAIRES BE DISPENSED WITH

 

9. THE CASE BE LISTED IN THE TRIAL WINDOW COMMENCING 5 MARCH 2007 TO 27 APRIL 2007 WITH A TIME ESTIMATE OF 4 HOURS

 

 

 

What do I need to do now?????

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No chicken counting Jan - I'm going to carry on assuming that they want to take it all the way so I need to start preparing and make sure I get it right

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I'm counting on nothing Alan but we'll see.

 

Any ideas what I should be including in my disclosure. The only document that I seem to be relying on is Bank Statements showing the charges being debited and these are already in the possession of the defence

 

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Well - I got back from the Xmas protest and p*** up to find a very nice letter from Cobbetts offering me 75% subject to confidentiality and withdrawal of my claim.

 

I have graciously accepted as an interim payment and will continue until I get the full amount.

 

There will be a turkey in the Shieber household this Christmas:D

 

I'll keep you posted on the rest.

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Can't you stretch to a goose, tradition and all that.

 

Actually Jan we are having a goose at the brother in laws. I will now be providing the champagne and caviar.

 

As for confidentiality Caro - as you may have noticed on Friday - I talk too much:D

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Now the serious stuff.

 

The judge has ordered disclosure by 22nd December. Is it a good idea for either myself or Cobbetts to apply for a stay of the order for a period of say 28 days (as per the option on the AQ) as we may now be able to reach a negotiated settlement?

 

I really hope it wont take that long to reach agreement on the final amount but I really don't want to do a 200 page disclosure unless I absolutely have to.

 

Incidentally, there is a very interesting paragraph in Cobbetts letter regarding refinancing of unauthorised bank borrowing. I'm not going to post it on here just yet as it's crucial to my final settlement and as we all know Big Brother is watching but it might just give some other members a good grounding for claims similar to mine and I will definitely post it once I get it all sorted out.

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I'm very tempted to force disclosure as it will certainly help others but to be blunt I'm not going to prejudice my settlement.

 

Just spoken to my dad who used to work for the High Court and he has suggested that I offer Natwest a stay of the disclosure order by consent (we both agree to the stay).

 

I was talking to BF about this on Friday and he agreed that for me to force disclosure would be a real milestone for CAG but not at the expense of delaying my own claim.

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Like I said, I'm not prepared to disclose what they actually said about loan agreements until I get that one sorted but I will post it when they settle.

 

I'm not going to mention a stay. They have 3 weeks before they have to disclose so I'll keep the pressure on and see what happens.

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Just an update - there's nothing to update!!!:mad:

 

I wrote back to Cobbetts last week clarifying my position on the loan and accepting the offer made as an interim payment and guess what - nothing.

 

I suspect that they are going to drag it out as close to 22nd as possible or possibly request confidential disclosure of costs. If they don't settle, I do now have a hearing on 17th January for my application for an order that they respond to my Part 18 request.

 

My standard disclosure will be ready in plenty of time - the question now is, will theirs?

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A little help please guys.

 

I'm just preparing my disclosure for the court (because they haven't paid me yet!!!) and I'm a little confused.

 

The court order states:

 

3. Disclosure is limited to standard disclosure by 4pm on 22nd December 2006

 

4. The latest date for delivery of the lists is 19th January 2007

 

What's the difference. If you make the disclosure surely the list is delivered and served at that time.

 

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Thanks chaps - I'll ring the court this morning and see what they say.

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I've rung the court and it is apparently a mistake - disclosure is by list before 4pm on Friday, the other reference to delivery of the lists shouldn't be there.

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Don't feel badly about being baffled - so were the Court staff for nearly 15 minutes.

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My disclosure was delivered to Cobbetts this morning. I know this cos I blew £4.10 and sent it special delivery. The court copy was delivered by hand at 1pm today and accepted. As of then Cobbetts hadn't filed their disclosure.

 

I'm not going to accept any excuses about Christmas Holidays etc. They have had the same time to file as I have and I've managed it. The court office opens again on Thursday and I'll be there with my application to strike out the defence.

 

Second failure in this case to file on time!

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Like I said, I'm not accepting Christmas post as an excuse for 2 reasons - firstly, the order was made in November. I knew Christmas was happening and I'm pretty sure Cobbetts did as well.

 

Secondly, Cobbetts subscribe to the DX (Document Exchange) which is a guaranteed next day service for delivery of legal documents between courts and solicitors.

 

No excuses!

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Oh well - the last post before Christmas has just been and no big fat cheque or indeed anything else from Cobbetts.

 

Bah Humbug!

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Application to strike out completed and sitting on my desk. I'll ring the court in the morning and if they haven't filed disclosure I'll be down the the court to file the application.

 

I'm getting a bit hacked off now:-x

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The Shiebers are very definitely rattling sabres now.

 

Still nothing from Cobbetts so the application to strike out has been submitted.

 

If nothing else it might provoke some sort of response from them. I'm staggered that they can make me an offer and then ignore all correspondence since.

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When this gets sorted I'm going to change my username.

 

How does "Shieberthecobbettslayer" sound:D

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Paul. Mine has just been transferred to the Mercantile Court!

 

I suspect it won't get there.

 

Who transferred it? Did you apply for the transfer or was it the District Judge?

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No - He's sat in rainy Mansfield waiting for the postman (again!) so no hot sunny beaches yet or lapdancers - (lapdancers will be a never if Mrs S has anything to do with it.)

 

I'm not really expecting anything before the hearing on 17th January but we live in hope!

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Oh yes I'm still here.

 

The Cobbetslayer may have the evil witch of the Natwest on the ropes but I suspect she is just licking her wounds before the final skirmish.

 

It isn't over as they say, until the fat lady sings, so butter up your tonsils lard ass cos I'm coming to get you - in court next week if you have the bottle.

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