Euro Car Parks PCN

[vicked]

Hi

I have just received a PCN from Euro Car Parks for parking on a Double Red Line on a Sunday Night at a FREE Car Park at Cineworld Cinemas. There was no parking bay available and found few cars parked on the Red line and parked behind them. I am a regular to this place and find lots of cars parked there and never noticed any warning signs. But today after the PCN, i searched and noticed a board saying - Park in Bay only. But nowhere it is mentioned about penalties or anything else. Any advice?

[havinastella]

Don't pay, don't pay and don't pay!

 

Have a look around the site at all the other threads about the same thing!

 

Jogs

[MARTIN3030]

As suggested they cannot legally enforce this with any statute law.Prepare to be bombarded with notices after they apply to Swansea for your details-ignore them and you have no legal requirement to tell them who was driving.

Usual scenario is after half a dozen threats they will go away.

Will move your thread.

[vicked]

Thank you Martin & Jogs. Will not pay them

[vicked]

Received a letter. They got the details from DVLA and have increased the amount from 50 to 70 Pounds, with 28 days notice. They say of further 25 pounds admin charge if not paid and referred to Debt collection agency.

 

Am sending off a Template Letter to appoint me, as my brother is the registered keeper. Am also sending a letter from myself.

 

Thanks to the site and the templates. Will keep posted if i hear back.

[lamma]

why bother writing to them ?

[vicked]

shouldn't i?

[Al27]

Rather than giving up sooner, they'll know their letters are rattling somebody and probably send you more letters before giving up. Plus you're using up your own time.

 

Euro Car Parks simply don't do anything. Ignore them, you'll receive 4 or 5 letters, and then they'll give up and go away - probably around February or March.

[RichardM]

Am sending off a Template Letter to appoint me, as my brother is the registered keeper. Am also sending a letter from myself.

 

Thanks to the site and the templates. Will keep posted if i hear back.

 

I don't recommend that you do anything of the sort.

 

If you are going to send them anything at all, send them something like this.

 

Reference your correspondence, the contents are noted.

 

It is denied that any monies are owing to your company and that the alledged debt is in dispute.

 

As you are undoubtedly well aware, private car parks do not fall under any legislation other than those which govern contracts between a trader and a consumer. I am fully aware that you have no right to demand anything from the driver of a vehicle for any payment over and above any loss that you have suffered as a trader.

 

Should you wish to pursue a case for a breach of contract, I require:

 

Precise details of the contract that the driver of the vehicle in question was alledged to have entered into.

How the contract was entered into (ie for what consideration were services provided).

In what way did the driver of the vehicle breach the conditions of any contract.

Proof that the driver of said vehicle had knowingly entered into said contract.

Evidence of said losses and a breakdown of those loses equivalent to your demand for £70.

 

Upon receipt of these items, a suitable course of action shall be considered. Be warned, however, that if it is found that your demands have been inflated beyond reason, or that elements of your "contract" could be considered to be unlawful, these shall be taken up with the relevent trading authorities.

 

Furthermore, as this matter is in dispute, should you choose to pass it on to a third party, this shall also be reported to the relevent authorities. No liability shall be accepted for any further costs incurred by yourselves unnecessarily involving said third party in this dispute.

[Vermillion]

I would agree that it is best not to correspond with them.

If you do contact them send the template letter. I did this but it was ignored. I do however, have it as evidence that they were informed. After some agitating etc,. The parking company concerned has been written to by Trading Standards who were 'leaned on' by my MP; TS have told my mP they are waiting for a response. Companies House has also written to them regarding irregularities. I am interested to see what happens next, and with the support available on this site I am not intimidated and will battle on.

[lamma]

Good. More people should shake the tree like this. Squeaky wheels get oiled.

[DDWales]

Hi Vicked. Just follow the advice of the previous posts and please read the stickies. Ive had the same problem from Euro Parks which they then passed on to Credit Control Management Debt Agency (who i think are the same company under a different guise-anyone confirm this?) who sent approx 2 letters to me....then nothing!! They WILL give up after a few letters and disappear.