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Hi,

 

It all starts now. Prelim letter done, schedule completed. £280 claim submitted.

 

Thanks for info everyone who has posted, ive been reading like a madman and am ready to commence my first battle. I have a few financial institutions to tackle, and am going for it one by one.

 

I'll post any info on progress. :-)

 

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Ok standard letter received stating how they believe charges are fair and offering an amount of £112 as the difference in OFT's supposed fair charge.

 

Ok, so is it LBA time now? Also, as the account is overlimit, now they have added another £40, can I add that to my claim in the LBA?

 

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Yes, add the £40 to your LBA and include the new charges on the schedule you enclose.

 

By all means accept their paltry offer as a partial settlement, but maintain you are continuing your claim for the rest. I don't think they give you much choice as they seemingly just credit it to your account anyway.

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Yes, add the £40 to your LBA and include the new charges on the schedule you enclose.

 

By all means accept their paltry offer as a partial settlement, but maintain you are continuing your claim for the rest. I don't think they give you much choice as they seemingly just credit it to your account anyway.

 

when you say on the schedule you enclose is that like just a list of dates and charges etc or is something totally different ?

Halifax ACC 1

D.P.A sent 11/04.2006

Request for £190.00 sent 4/05/2006

£100 offer recieved 24/05/2006

L.B.A sent 30/05/2006

Moneyclaim submitted 3/07/2006

Paid up in full 27/07/2006

 

 

 

Halifax ACC 2

Request for £1218.00 + £261.34 int sent 30/05/2006

No response

£340.00 offer recieved 7/06/2006

L B A sent 14/06/2006

Moneyclaim submitted 3/07/2006

Paid up in full 27/07/2006

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Okay, still no reply and they havent even creditted the acconut with the £112 partial settlement.

 

So, next step on friday is to start the money claim. I will get reading to prep.

 

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Bonus77

 

Copy and past the following in your claim form if it helps and just fill in your dates and figures.

 

I have a contract with Capital One Bank from 2000

which is conducted on their standard terms

and conditions. I am claiming the return of

money taken by the defendant

by way of charges over the last 6 years

and interest they have levied on those

charges. These charges are a

disproportionate penalty and so

unenforceable as they are contrary to common

law. Further, as a disproportionate penalty

they are invalid under the Unfair

(Contracts) Terms Act 1977 s.4 and under the

Unfair Terms in Consumer Contracts

Regulations 1999. Para.8 and sch.2(1)(e). In

the event that the charges are not a penalty

they are unreasonable within the

meaning of the Supply of Goods and Services

Act 1982 s.15. I also claim interest under section 69 of

the County Courts Act 1984 at the rate of 8%

a year from 08/05/2000 to 09/05/2006 of £

600,and also interest at the same rate up

to the date of judgment or earlier payment

at a daily rate of 8%.

 

Hope this helps.

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Okay, just finished completing my claim, but i havent submitted it as the 14 days doesnt really end until tomorrow. ( Letter dated 14th July 2006, sent recorded post 15th July 2006.)

 

So.. made a claim for £260 + £15.21 interest and £30 Fee. Its ready to go bar a full settlement in the post tomorrow.

 

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Bonus,

 

Yes you can claim the £20 you have incurred during the process,

 

I notice when you started your claim you were claiming £280, and you have reduced this on your claim form are you letting them off with the £20 quid?

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I spotted that I made a mistake originally. They had reversed a charge, so I deducted that before i made my initial request.

 

Thanks for your help Clarkey1, I will certainly add the new £20 charge.

 

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Your welcome and go luck

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Okay, thought i would give them til today just to allow for postage time.

 

I have completed my claim, but i want to check the address im serving.

 

Its

 

Capital One (Europe plc)

PO Box 5281

Nottingham

NG2 3FA

 

Is that the one I should use?

 

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Okay, thought i would give them til today just to allow for postage time.

 

I have completed my claim, but i want to check the address im serving.

 

Its

 

Capital One (Europe plc)

PO Box 5281

Nottingham

NG2 3FA

 

Is that the one I should use?

 

The Post Code is NG2 3HX.

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Clarkey1<br />

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Thanks again Clarkey1.

 

Just lastly, when ive seen some claim descriptions they have mentioned that the company have refused to give a breakdown of their cost. Shall I mention something similar in my claim description or literally as you put it in an earlier post?

 

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The claim form on money claim online is a bit complicated as you are only limited to a number of letters and lines.

 

However what I have done is complied with the information required aswell as informing the court of my legal requests, and it all fits the form.

 

I would reccommend you do the same as this has worked for me on two occasions.:)

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Clarkey1<br />

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Cheers for the reassurance Clarkey1. Just filed the claim, cheers for your continuing help.

 

Claim Filed: 6QZ50838

 

Shall I now send a letter to Cap one advising what ive done or just leave it to the courts now?

 

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No, just let it take its course.

 

You will need to PM Bookworm so she can post your claim details in the litigation section.

 

Then sit back and start on your next bank or put your feet up and wait.

 

Good Luck again.:wink:

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Okay, I received a reply today from R.Udy, saying that they have refunded the partial amount to my account and the cannot refund the remaining £148 to clear the amount im claiming.

 

Problem is, ive already submitted my claim for £280+interest and fees. What do I do? As they didnt reply before the 14 day deadline I didnt expect them to credit my account at all. Do I need to re-submit my claim? or do I just write to Cap one explaining that the deadline had expired so I cant accept the partial payment.

 

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