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    • No because it's locked. You need to copy the relevant part of the questionnaire and paste it into this thread. That way you can overwrite. HB
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PMSL!!

 

Thank you MacBoy - it will be firmly attached the fridge, the mirror and my pillow:D :D

 

Brings a whole new meaning to "in your dreams" don't you think!?

 

Should I hit my MEP's too? Not literally of course!

 

I am just composing a letter to the local paper too - can I run it by you guys when it's done please?

 

Jo xx :)

Jo,

I think anything to raise the profile of this is worth it. Please post it when you have finished and we will certainly have a look. Thanks.

I am still very much bemused by the lack of people and mods/site helpers on here. Macboy, do you know something we don't?

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Found on a web site. The last paragraph is important in my view and shows that we should be outting pressure on the Financial services consumer panel, sems they have the power to overturn this waiver.

 

The OFT says it has entered into an agreement with these providers in relation to the litigation process to facilitate an orderly and timely resolution of the legal issues.

News of the initiative was welcomed by a number of parties, including the Consumer Panel.

John Howard, Chairman of the Panel, said: "It is terrible that the issue of bank charges has been allowed to rumble on for so long, with thousands of consumers having to threaten action to have their cases settled.

"The test case will provide certainty and consistency for consumers in the way firms are dealing with complaints.

"We understand and support the decision to allow banks to suspend dealing with claims until the test case has been decided, but will be pressing the FSA to revoke the waiver if the test case becomes protracted and consumers are exposed to undue risk."

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The FSA is accountable to Treasury Ministers, and through them to Parliament. It is operationally independent of Government and is funded entirely by the firms it regulates. The FSA is an open and transparent organisation and provides full information for firms, consumers and others about its objectives, plans, policies and rules, including through this website. An area of this website provides information specifically for consumers on financial products, regulation and their rights.

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Off the treasury web site

Objectives:

 

1. maintaining a stable macroeconomic framework with low inflation;

2. maintaining sound public finances in accordance with the Code for Fiscal Stability;

3. improving the quality and the cost effectiveness of public services;

4. increasing the productivity of the economy;

5. expanding economic and employment opportunities for all;

6. promoting a fair and efficient tax and benefit system with incentives to work, save and invest;

7. achieving a high standard of regularity, propriety and accountability in public finance;

8. securing an innovative, fair dealing, competitive and efficient market in financial services, while striking the right balance with regulation in the public interest;

9. promoting UK economic prospects by pursuing increased productivity and efficiency in the EU, international financial stability and increased global prosperity, including especially protecting the most vulnerable.

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6. - (1) It is unlawful for a public authority to act in a way which is incompatible with a Convention right.

(2) Subsection (1) does not apply to an act if-

    (a) as the result of one or more provisions of primary legislation, the authority could not have acted differently; or

    (b) in the case of one or more provisions of, or made under, primary legislation which cannot be read or given effect in a way which is compatible with the Convention rights, the authority was acting so as to give effect to or enforce those provisions.

(3) In this section "public authority" includes-

    (a) a court or tribunal, and

    (b) any person certain of whose functions are functions of a public nature,

but does not include either House of Parliament or a person exercising functions in connection with proceedings in Parliament.

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Whilst I welcome the Test case wholeheartedly, the impact on the Consumer from the FSA ruling in favour of the banks has left me cold. This is a subject which seems to have been conveniently glossed over by those involved.

What about,

Whilst I welcome the test case, I ( and thousands of others) feel that the ruling by the FSA is a kick in the teeth for consumers. ( Let 'em know we are seething!

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Went to court again today as a court buddy. My friend against Nasty West.

Barrister ( Justin Timson-Smith) for barclays easily got it stayed. Judge didn't even listen to my friend. Told her that all cases are going to be stayed without exception, telling her that february was not a long time to wait

Burnley County Court

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Fantastic work done there Kog. I think a letter or e mail to these people will help our cause.

I think only from one person though along the lines of...

Although I am not one of your constituents, I would appreciate your kind help in resolving a matter which is affecting thousands of people all over the country. We have been contacting our local MP's about this matter, but I write to you as I see that you have had grave concerns about this matter with your own constituents in the past. And attach the letter.

 

Any coments/help/suggestions?

And how come my number of posts aren't moving?I'm still on 557

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John v Rees (1970). Justice Megarry" It may be that there are some who would decry the importance of the rules of natural justice. ......those who take this view do not, I think, do themselves justice. As everybody who has anything to do with the law well knows, the path of the law is strewn with examples of open and shut cases which, somehow, were not: of unanswerable charges which, in the event, were completely answered ; with inexplainable conduct which was fully explained; ........ nor are those with any knowledge of human nature who pause to think for a moment likely to underestimate the feelings of resentment of those who find there is a decison against them as being made without their being afforded any opportunity to influence the course of events."

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Hi all

 

Just to say no news on my letters to the papers - not even an email saying thanks but no thanks Grrrrrrrrr :mad:

 

But any replies I post on the Abbey forum I am asking people to join the campaign and write to their MP's - trying to do a little bit to help!

 

DoS, that quote above is fantastic - it sums up the current situation to a tee. if I don't get anywhere with the press, I may write a revised letter using part of that quote, if that's ok?

 

Jo xx

Yes Jo, use it by all means, it's free on the web to anyone. Sorry to hear about the papers, there may still be time.

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If you take a good luck around the MSE site, you will see numerous threads linking to this site for templates etc... Some links put there by MODs.

This friend has PM'd a MOD about this and had no reply, which I find to be extrmely arrogant and ignorant!

And this thread was pulled- so links to the templates etc... are OK but links to our little campaign are not it seems

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