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Hello all!

 

I have started my own thread as I am sending off my SAR today. Have had to do so as I am missing 3 statements (really annoying)!!

 

Even without the 3 statements, have worked out that they owe me £3751 for charges and about £91 for interest. I am using the complex spreadsheet found in the library.

 

However, I'm not sure if it has calculated the interest correctly. If I can send this to anyone to have a look, I will be most grateful.

 

Anyway wish me luck :)

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Hi moneyhelp.

 

Thanks for your reply. I should have made myself clearer!

 

I meant the interest that they have charged on the overdrawn balance at the time. Although I have an authorised overdraft, some of the interest that they have charged has been due to my balance being over the authorised limit as a result of the charges that they have charged. I'm using the advanced excel spreadsheet.

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/Spreadsheets/England/Complex-bank-charges-calc.xls

 

If you are familiar with it, I'd appreciate some help! :D

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May battle commence. Have just sent by S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) by Recorded Delivery. Will await with bated breath!

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Thanks guys. This is why I think this site rocks!

 

I have only been a member for three days now but I have learnt so much and read so much (have had a bad headache for 2/3 days due to intake of info :D ).

 

I'm actually quite excited at the prospect of becoming a vexatious litigant :D as opposed to being a vexatious defendant :mad: .

 

Could really use the money, as I am currently unemployed and am trying to finish University. It was the subject of my dissertation (on debt and it's growth BTW), that made me stumble (quite literally) upon this site.

 

I am spreading the CAG gospel to all and sundry. To quote Michael (Jackson - apologies to any fans) "I am not alone, you are here for ME!"

 

I fully intend to ignore the fob off letters. BTW can anyone check my spreadsheet for me please if I PM you? I am using the Advanced Excel one. I am quite good at Excel but the IF statements (which are hidden) that aids with the calculation of debit interest (not CI - see fast learner), I'm not sure if the figures they are returning are correct. I have an authorised limit (£750) but I don't think it's interest free. Do I enter this into the "Interest Free Overdraft" column?

 

To be honest I wasn't that bothered about the calculation with my Abbey claim. Maybe I should have had it checked before sending it off :confused:

 

Anyway thanks again to all. Watch this space................

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Hi guys.

 

I decided not to wait for my SAR to come through as I was missing only three statements, one of which that had no transactions on it.

 

I sent my Preliminary Letter off yesterday. I am claiming Contractual Interest at 29.8%. Yes - I have read all the arguments for and against this, however the saying is "nothing ventured nothing gained." :)

 

My problem is this. I was looking over my spreadsheet again today and realise that it is missing £30 (not all the formulas were applied correctly when I was removing rows). :mad:

 

Should I send the correct shedule with my LBA and mention the revision in the letter? :-?

 

Please advise.

 

Thanks guys.

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Thanks Tilly. :D

 

I've become really good at helping everyone else but I'm worried about to how to answer my own queries. :o

 

Never mind. I will send the revised schedule with my LBA in two weeks time.

 

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Thanks guys. :) :)

 

You're right about needing reassurance. I've just spent this week helping Coxey http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/capital-one/90138-coxey61-capital-one.html with her spreadsheet problem but am too anxious to figure out my own simple problem :p

 

Lol - what a funny old world we live in. :)

 

BTW does anyone know any threads I can read with regards to successful Halifax claims with Contractual Interest? I've looked but can't find any. Maybe I'm missing something?

 

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Thanks Moneyhelp!

 

I read Mindzai & Lucid's thread from start to finish on Thursday. What an incredible account. However Have also read the "Why is no-one claiming CI" thread too!

 

I'm looking for Halifax CI successes. I'm currently trawling through the sticky at the top of the Halifax forum.

Wish me luck ;)

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I think I read that one too. It went to the High Court apparently, which means it sets a precedent for the lower courts :(

 

However I will put three amounts on my POC should it come to it

 

1. interest at unauthorised rate

2. interest at authorised rate

3. interest at Statutory rate

 

and leave it to the judge to decide. Mindzai & Lucid did the same and were paid CI by Lloyds without them actually appearing in court.

 

I am not holding out for CI but you don't know until you try.

 

Thank you for the heads up. BTW do you have the link for that case? I haven't book marked it :(

 

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Thanks Stornoway :) !

 

I have bookmarked the thread and will have a re-read.

 

I have no idea what the outcome will be with Haliprats. I have another account with them that I need to claim on too, but I thought I'd do one with them to test the water ;) .

 

I'd be quite happy with charges and overdraft interest (whoops did I say that out loud) but we shall see what happens.

 

Thank you all for your support - WATCH THIS SPACE!!

 

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Thanks SSL. I'm reading it now. :D

 

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Thanks lovely Tilly!

 

You're right - you never know. From what I can see every member has had a DIFFERENT experience with the same institution. Some have found them easier to deal with than others.

 

Well I have proceeded with Round One so - WATCH THIS SPACE!! ;)

 

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Hi guys - just to update.

 

I received a rubbish fob off letter from Haliprats, stating the usual "charges are fair, la la po, etc, etc"!

 

So the expiry before I send my LBA is 7/7/07 which will commence round two. At least shAbbey had the "decency" to say that would need 4 weeks to look into it.

 

So I will update again in 7 days unless of course Haliprats decide to reconsider.

 

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Just an update.

 

before I sent my Prelim letter to Haliprats, I sent them an SAR on 11/6/07 because I was missing three statements.

 

After much consideration, I decided against waiting for Haliprats to fulfill my SAR and decided to send my Prelim letter with charges based on the statements that I do have.

 

I received a letter today from them, dated 27/6/2007 with regards to my SAR. They are experiencing a high number of similar requests (can't thing why CAG members ;) ). They stated that it may take a little time to process my request but they aim to give me a response no later than 40 days from when they received my original request.

 

Countdown started from 13/6/07 (the day after receipt), so they have until 22/7/07 (which is a Sunday) to respond. LOL! I still need the info from my SAR as I made it for another Haliprats account that I will claim on once I receive all the info. Even when it all comes, I will wait as I currently have Halifax, Crap One and shAbbey on the go at the moment, so will need a breather once I have concluded these which is still a good 2-4 months away.

 

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Thanks BigMac.

 

So you would advise me calling them after I have issued my LBA? I have read so many threads and everyone seems to have had different experiences.

 

I wasn't expecting to get a straight up rejection of my claim, as their first piece of correspondence. Most people got the "we are looking into your complaint" letter first. They just skipped to the "no the charges are fair and have been applied correctly" letter with me. :mad:

 

Well their LBA is due to be sent this Friday 6/7. If you think that I may have some luck calling them and trying to get them to settle before it goes to court, I will certainly give this a try. Which is the best number to ring?

 

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Thanks guys!

 

I will issue LBA on Saturday and wait 14 days (I thought it was 12 + 2 days?) and then call if I get a response in that time. :confused::o:p:D

 

 

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I'm sending my LBA today. Do I send it to Trinity Road, which is where I sent my Prelim letter, or do I send it to Catherine Toner at "Customer Relations" in Leeds, who wrote me my IFOL (intial fob-off letter).

 

What d'ya think? :?

 

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Thanks Tilly!

 

I am on a mission. LOL! I'm trying to get my s**t sorted out and I'm glad I have the support of you all to enable me to do so.

 

I think my finding of this site was extremely timely. :)

 

I'll print my LBA off now and get it ready to send first thing this morning.

As the 14 days draw closer, do I need to wait for a response from them before I try and negotiate or do I call the "Customer Relations" (I use the term loosely) people?

 

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Hello everyone.

 

Halifax have failed to respond to my LBA. :mad: Therefore, I should be issuing my N1 on Monday.

 

Does anyone think it's worth me calling the Customer Relations department and trying to get them to settle before I start court proceedings, or should I just issue them anyway and call their litigation team once I get my Notice of Issue.

 

All comments and advice as usual is warmly appreciated.

 

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So N1 it is then. Hey ho!

 

Thanks SSL as always. :D

 

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Just to update - I filed my N1 last Thursday 26/7. Ironically the same day that the news of the OFT test case was released. I was blissfully unaware at the time until I caught up with the news on the forum :p:confused:

 

I have today received a letter from Halifax regarding my SAR for two accounts I hold with them. One of the accounts is the one I have just filed the N1. I went ahead with this claim as I was missing three statements. The second one is for an account that I know I had lots of charges levied against but was not as meticulous at filing statements for.

 

I made my request on 11 June. They are well past the 40 days and the letter I received today, dated 27 July, states that alll the documents are ready and will be posted out to me shortly. On 27 June they wrote me and said that they would meet the 40 day deadline - yeah right!

 

Anyway that's my news on this thread for now.

 

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No I haven't. I haven't for my Abbey claim yet either. Lambeth CC are really slow. I had an awful time on the phone last week see CapQuest CCJ and this slowness is causing me a major headache, especially for my Capquest case.

 

Their excuses aren't good at all. I was so busy at work yesterday, I was unable to make any personal phone calls. When I remembered it was past 4pm and the court office was closed. I will try today.

 

Now I've filed, is it worth starting to hassle Halifax to settle? I know there's an air of uncertainty with the OFT test case. I wonder if anyone has had their case settled, SINCE news of the test case was announced?

 

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Wow! Thanks guys! I wasn't expecting a flurry of posts. Thank you for all your words of encouragement.

 

MAcBoy well done on submitting your N244 ;) .

 

My case is a bit of both unlawful and unauthorised overdraft charges. I'm not home yet, so don't know if Halifax have actually been served or if any paperwork has come through. I forgot to ask when I made my call to the court today. :roll:

 

Well I guess we're all in the same boat, so we shall ALL see what happens.

 

Thank you all once again - that's why I love this site :D

 

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Received Notice of issue yesterday (3 Aug). My N1 was deemed served on 2/8, so countdown begins to see if they will acknowledge. ;):D

 

With regards to my S.A.R - (Subject Access Request), I also received five statements from Halifax covering the period from April - September 2002 for my Current Account. I have asked for statements from April 2002 to present, for this account. They haven't even sent one statement for the other account I included in my request. Today is day 53 since my request was received and they still haven't complied. Grrrr!!!

 

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