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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
    • No! What has happened is that your pix were up-to-date: 5 hours' maximum stay and £100 PCN. The lazy solicitors have sent ancient pictures: 4 hours' maximum stay and £60 PCN. Don't let on!  Let them be hoisted by their own lazy petard in the court hearing (if they don't bottle before).
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After recently winning my money back off lloyds i decided to go to the missus` c/acc and sent off a S.A.R . I got it back today only to find it differs from the one lloyds sent.

As it is not just the charges and reasons for them, but full statemets that only say charges as notified. Which look like £5.00 (account fee i presume as it`s at the end of every month) and also some say "charges as notified £33. £1.90 interest debited-notified last month"

So my questions are

 

1. Do i just fill in the first simple spreadsheet column as charge with the date. As i am only presuming it`s a penalty charge because it goes into no detail on the statement.

 

2. Is the "Interest debited £1.90 - notified last month" classed as the overdraft interest accrued by those charges. Therefore enabling me to add those to my claim (at the appropriate time,after the lba i think or is that just the sec69 8% interest, oh lordy lordy im all confused again lol) thanks for your replies.

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Hi -- charge as notified will be fine. That's all I put on my schedule and it did the trick!!

 

If you don't have an overdraft and are only overdrawn because of the charges then you can claim the interest. However, if the charges are partly for an agreed overdraft and partly through charges, I think that's where it gets a little complicated (to complicated for me anyhow!).

 

Halifax do seem to be one of the better ones (dare I say it) for settling before court. They did in my case and many others. If whoever is looking after your case on the day doesn't want to play ball, and you end up issuing court papers, then at least you can claim you "little xtra from Howard Halifax in the way of the 8% interest.

 

Have read of my Halifax thread to see my timescales!

 

Best wishes.

 

Jaxads

jaxads

 

Halifax - £2281, successfully refunded all charges after LBA letter & telephone call.

Have been offered the difference between the £20 and £12 charges from Capital One -- am sending LBA for remainder.

GE Money - Received settlement of £441, being total charges requested. No interest though.

CCA'd Bank of Scotland / Blair Oliver Scott to produce CCA Agreements on two Credit Cards - well in default, although still chasing payment!!!

EOS Solutions "ceased action on account" on behalf of a friend.

 

All in all, quite busy at the moment and enjoying every minute of it
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Thanks for that advice,

 

1.The monthly £5.00 fee i said i thought was an account fee ended on 30/9/02 so maybye not a fee(but it`s a bit low for charge)

So has anyone any idea what that will have been?Or should i ring the bank and ask?

2. When looking through my statements i noticed i missed off two charges of £33, any one any ideas on what i can do with that balls up?(i`ve already seny my prelim letter and schedule)

 

Jaxads your right when you say Halifax seem better in respect of paying up ,but i just got back the standard letter saying they intend to adress my concerns within 4 weeks but they are entitled to eight , so it looks like i`ll be sending off an L.B.A when 2 weeks have passed .After reading a few threads it seems a lot of people have been made offers almost immediatley (why not me?paranoia kicking in,but on the upside it`s more money if it goes to a claim yeeeeeha!) Thanks for any replies.

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Hi towigk

 

I've had a few of those £5 charges. My friend received her statements and had 14 of those charges running from 2001 - 2002 and then suddenly stopped again.

She's queried this with the Halifax, and they admit it could only be a charge for copies of statements or copies of cheques. At the moment, they are 'investigating' it as they fully admit they have no idea why the charges were applied.

 

Make you wonder?

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Of course they can be claimed for! Have you ordered copies of statements or cheques?

These £5's look like they've been taken from many peoples accounts for no reason whatsover.

Or Charges as Not Notified :-)

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The only thing i can think of what i did that reguarly (before online banking) was to get statements out of the cashpoint, but surely they couldn`t charge £5.00 a month for that.As for copy statements i cannot think of requesting any at all same with the cheques.icon5.gif

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There's no way that a little statement from a cash machine would cost a fiver. And they would have said this was the case when my friend queried hers. Instead they are 'investigating'. Neither of us have ever requested a copy statement or cheque either.

Someone has had their fingers in the till. Blatantly.

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I had these £5 charges too, with no explanation. Starting on 31/03/2001 (maybe earlier but thats when my statement request starts) then every month up until 31/12/2001.

 

I did noticed that the 11th month was missed out, but i got a £33 charge that month so i must have been let off!!!!

26/02/07 - Statement Request

06/03/07 - Prelim Sent (requesting £500)

20/03/07 - LBA Sent

04/04/07 - Started Court Claim (requesting £678:54 including 8% & Costs)

05/04/07 - Received Part Offer (£348 )

06/04/07 - Rejected Offer !

10/04/07 - Papers deemed served on Halifax. Have until 24/04/07 to admit ir defend.

11/04/07 - Halifax filed acknowledgement of service , intending to defend ALL of claim.

26/04/07- SETTLED IN FULL - INCLUDING COURT COSTS & INTEREST.

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Well it`s L.B.A day so i will get that sent off with an ammended schedule of charges (i missed out two when scouring the many,many,many statements)it will be okay to mention about it in an attached letter in my L.B.A won`t it?

Sorry for no replies to my last two posts but i wasn`t notified by email about them. Surely somebody knows what these charges are for, as everyone seemed to get them.

I also only got charged(the £5) in the months when no penalty charges were made.

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Morning Towigk

 

Yes, you can keep on adding charges right up until you file your court papers, so just add the other two on and send a new schedule of charges with your LBA. Sorry, but I cannot help with the £5 charges, as I've no idea what they're for!!!

 

Happy Easter --- jaxads

jaxads

 

Halifax - £2281, successfully refunded all charges after LBA letter & telephone call.

Have been offered the difference between the £20 and £12 charges from Capital One -- am sending LBA for remainder.

GE Money - Received settlement of £441, being total charges requested. No interest though.

CCA'd Bank of Scotland / Blair Oliver Scott to produce CCA Agreements on two Credit Cards - well in default, although still chasing payment!!!

EOS Solutions "ceased action on account" on behalf of a friend.

 

All in all, quite busy at the moment and enjoying every minute of it
:eek:

 

 

 

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How many have you had?

This could have been quite a lucrative sideline for someone :-)

I had ten charges of £5 (only when there was no penalty charge that month) between 23/3/01 and the last on 30/9/02.

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Morning Towigk

 

Yes, you can keep on adding charges right up until you file your court papers, so just add the other two on and send a new schedule of charges with your LBA. Sorry, but I cannot help with the £5 charges, as I've no idea what they're for!!!

 

Happy Easter --- jaxads

Thanks for that jaxads and a happy easter to you.

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Got a letter off Mr Lyttle today offering a "goodwill"(yes good for them as it`s short by half nearly) full and final settlement of £347.

 

After studying the rejection of offer letters, I have gone for letter 3 as it`s only 2 days before i was due to file a court claim.

I have given him a little more time (4 days) to respond to my letter as ideally I would have liked to have made rejection by phone but i`m acting on behalf of my partner and she would not be comfortable talking over the phone,and i don`t think they will discuss it with myself or can anyone tell me any different?

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Just recieved a letter from Helen Martin the customer rel manger in Leeds asking me to contact her regarding reaching an amicable agreement over my complaints.

The problem is i`ve done it all so far and my missus has not got a clue regarding the claim. Does anyone think they will speak to me about it?

 

Also has everyone else started to recieve these letters from the Halifax just after the lloyds tsb win as i think she is going to refer to this and try and talk me out of it or try to give me a lower amount,any feedback appreciated thanks.

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After ringing up last Monday to see if i could talk to the customer relations manager they told me i would have to put in writing that my partner (whose account it is ) gives me permission to talk about her claim. So i thought okay i`ll get thaty done, but only four days later the head office wrote me a letter saying they had not admitted the claim but would pay it in full as it is not cost effective to defend as it`s in the small claims court .YEEEEEEHAAAAA!

 

Also has anyone found about the mystery £5 deductions?

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Thanks money the timing couldn`t be better as it`s starting to bite after being on the sick for 3 months after breaking my back,chest and neck bone and my little finger in a fall at work, i got the good news after returning home( and feeling not too much pain) after my first day back at work.

I was starting to flap a little after lloyds won as i thought all the banks would play on it and if possible drag it out even more.

 

Good luck to you and everyone else reading and thanks for your help.:)

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