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    • I have looked at the car park and it is quite clearly marked that it is  pay to park  and advising that there are cameras installed so kind of difficult to dispute that. On the other hand it doesn't appear to state at the entrance what the charge is for breaching their rules. However they do have a load of writing in the two notices under the entrance sign which it would help if you could photograph legible copies of them. Also legible photos of the signs inside the car park as well as legible photos of the payment signs. I say legible because the wording of their signs is very important as to whether they have formed a contract with motorists. For example the entrance sign itself doe not offer a contract because it states the T&Cs are inside the car park. But the the two signs below may change that situation which is why we would like to see them. I have looked at their Notice to Keeper which is pretty close to what it should say apart from one item. Under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule 4 Section 9 [2]a] the PCN should specify the period of parking. It doesn't. It does show the ANPR times but that includes driving from the entrance to the parking spot and then from the parking place to the exit. I know that this is a small car park but the Act is quite clear that the parking period must be specified. That failure means that the keeper is no longer responsible for the charge, only the driver is now liable to pay. Should this ever go to Court , Judges do not accept that the driver and the keeper are the same person so ECP will have their work cut out deciding who was driving. As long as they do not know, it will be difficult for them to win in Court which is one reason why we advise not to appeal since the appeal can lead to them finding out at times that the driver  and the keeper were the same person. You will get loads of threats from ECP and their sixth rate debt collectors and solicitors. They will also keep quoting ever higher amounts owed. Do not worry, the maximum. they can charge is the amount on the sign. Anything over that is unlawful. You can safely ignore the drivel from the Drips but come back to us should you receive a Letter of Claim. That will be the Snotty letter time.
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    • Yes, it was, but in practice we've found time after time that judges will not rule against PPCs solely on the lack of PP.  They should - but they don't.  We include illegal signage in WSs, but more as a tactic to show the PPC up as spvis rather than in the hope that the judge will act on that one point alone. But sue them for what?  They haven't really done much apart from sending you stupid letters. Breach of GDPR?  It could be argued they knew you had Supremacy of Contact but it's a a long shot. Trespass to your vehicle?  I know someone on the Parking Prankster blog did that but it's one case out of thousands. Surely best to defy them and put the onus on them to sue you.  Make them carry the risk.  And if they finally do - smash them. If you want, I suppose you could have a laugh at the MA's expense.  Tell them about the criminality they have endorsed and give them 24 hours to have your tickets cancelled and have the signs removed - otherwise you will contact the council to start enforcement for breach of planning permission.
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l have just looked at my credit file and have found that kays have put big red no payments on my file. Been reading through some threads so could someone confirm for me that as they have not been able to supply CCA that they should not be passing on data to a third party? s there a template letter anywhere that l can send them if not how long should l give them to remove the data they have put on credit report. Thanks

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l finally found a nice letter in the general debt forum so ive picked bits out of it basically saying no cca you cannot put any adverse comments on my credit reference file so ive given them 7 days to reply and ive threatened them with informing the relevant authorities if they do not comply

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the JD Williams account has been round a couple of DCA'S over the last couple of years, a "BEMUSED" letter sees them off. Latest DCA a company l've never come across b4 called UK SEARCH LTD have sent this reply.

Having read your letter and put forward your query to JD Williams the replt was as follows DEBTOR RAISED SAME DISPUTE WHEN ACCOUNT WAS WITH WESCOT (THAT WAS THE LAST DCA WHO QUICKLY GAVE UP)

You were advised at the time all disputes had previously been dealt with (no its not still waiting for CCA) and if there were any further disputes you were to put them in writing and forward them to JD Williams apparantly you have not done this.(strange) We have been advised to carry on and collect, however l will await your reply b4 l allow this account to proceed.

 

I am totally bemused by this reply what sort of response should l give if any.

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found a good letter on another thread so thinking of sending this

22 February 2010

YOUR REF:

Dear Sir

In response to your undated letter received by me on 18 February 2010

You should take note that I do not acknowledge any

debt to yourselves or your client.

I am informing you that this alleged debt is the subject of an unresolved dispute between myself and your client. Please be aware that as such I have no intention of entering into any dialogue with your company.

This matter has already previously been passed around numerous agencies whilst in dispute with JD Williams and subsequently returned to JD Williams very quickly on emergence of the facts. I am also aware of the OFT Guidelines on collection Practices in as much as you should cease collection activity and return this account to your client whilst an unresolved dispute exists.

Should you choose not to return this account to your client, I require you to send me a document copy of your formal complaints procedure by return. Furthermore, should your next letter be anything other than to confirm the return to your client I will view this as a direct act of Harassment and will take action accordingly

 

I look forward to your response and due diligence in this matter.

 

Yours faithfully,

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just to update on this, the DCA have now passed this on to a solicitors called Incasso ( funny how the addy on the envelope is the same one as the DCA) naughty! Sending a strongly worded letter to the solicitors and a letter to DCA asking them for their complaints procedures before l report them for breaching OFT collection guidelines.

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these muppets are really getting on my nerves! they have sent a reply saying if l want them to ask JD Williams for a credit agreement l will need to send them a £1! What planet are they on. They do not seem to understand any of the letters l have sent them and the one l sent to the so called solicitors has come back clearly from the DCA! l do not really know what sort of reply l can send as we seem to be going round in circles. They have sent me a copy of their complaints procedures. Any help as to what reply if any l should give would be gratefully accepted.

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advice anyone pls? I'm thinking of just ignoring them now and see what steps they want to take next cause l really cant think of anything else l can write to them to get it through their thick skulls! lol

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