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    • We looked up the e-mail address so communications would be in writing.  If you do stuff on the phone the other party can just deny the contents of the conversation.  They can't deny what's written in an e-mail. So time to sort Pete out.  Check the following for accuracy and change anything I've got wrong.  Then e-mail Pete this evening.  I was thinking of threatening the pub with legal action but let's initially be nice.   Dear Pete, Re: PCN no.XXXXX, claim form no.XXXXX on 23 July 2022 I was a customer at your pub and I attach proof of purchase. I was picking up my cousin Ms XXXXX and her family as she was working as a cook with you at the time.  I entered the pub through the back door, went to the bar, and ordered a drink and a meal.  At no point did any bar staff alert me that I needed to add my registration number or did I see any signs advising me to do so.  I then took a seat outside in a small seated area so I could chat to my cousin while waiting for her to finish work.  We were joined by the management of the pub and bar staff during my time waiting  I was shocked a few days later when I received a demand for £100 from Civil Enforcement Ltd.  i contacted the pub and was told "don't worry, it's not enforceable". Well, that information turned out to be nonsense because I have now received a county court claim form from CEL. I contacted the pub again on XXXXX and was extremely disappointed to be told "there's nothing we can do". Of course there is something you can do.  You are the organ grinder.  You called CEL in.  You can call your dogs off.  Your pub has absolutely superb reviews on Google Maps regarding the way in which you treat guests.  Do you really think customers should be dragged to court?  I'm sure you don't. I am therefore requesting that you intervene and instruct CEL to cease court action. Yours, XXXXX
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Dont panic. Firstly, hit the debt collection agency with a cca. You will find template for this on the site (bank letters). Enc £1 postal order. This will put the debt on hold and they cannot register the default whist the debt is in dispute. Send SAR request to MBNA. I really wouldnt bother contacting MBNA again other than the SAR request. They are obviously incompetent. We are all here to help you, so dont worry.

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Dont worry about the expenditure form for the moment. Firstly, you need to get the debt put on hold, stop them issuing the default and find out how much can be reclaimed in unlawful charges to reduce the debt. Will just look for CCA letter. just a mo

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Most important, dont worry. Hopefully, you can get a big chunk of this debt wiped off due to unlawful charges. Dont forget that you can claim back the contractual interest on the charges. If my memory serves me correct, I think it is 14.9 with MBNA. Then we can work on a manageable repayment plan that is affordable for you. Take no notice of the DCA demanding ridiculous amounts in repayment. If you had £2,000 spare, you wouldnt be in this mess. They are not supposed to intimidate debtors in this way, but unfortunately they think they are a law unto themselves. You have found your way here now, and you are slowly learning your rights. Let us know how much your charges are when you get them back, and if you have any more hassle from the DCA, we are all here to help you. Good luck.

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This is just terrible for you. Do not worry, they cannot break down your door and they cannot get what you havent got. More importantly, they are going to find themselves with egg on their faces. We need that SAR request back to work out how much the charges are. Stick to the £120 for now and make sure you save the emails in which they agreed to this. This will not good to a judge should it go to court. However, I dont think it will come to that. If you need to talk, just pm for my phone number. Keep your chin up x

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Good for you! Keep up the fighting spirit! Yes, the SAR goes to MBNA, you will find the template letter on this site. Include a paragraph saying that you would like to see a copy of the original agreement. I hope you have kept copies of the correspondence giving agreement to freeze the interest. This is very important if you have, because they will HAVE to adhere to their word! I am keeping my fingers crossed that the charges and interest you can claim back, will significantly reduce the debt. Remember, you are not a criminal! You deserve to be treated with respect!

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I would not even bother contacting MBNA again. Make sure you keep copies of all your correspondence to them, should ever you need them as proof that you have done all in your capacity to resolve this matter.

 

Just sit back and wait now.

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I would complain to everyone including the Information Commissioner's Office. Make their life as difficult as possible for shunning you in such a disgraceful way. You can download the complain form on the ICO site.

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BE WARNED

 

Dear Sirs,

 

Your Ref::::

 

Further to letter dated xxx, please be advised that the above debt is now in dispute. I am awaiting the return of my Subject Access Requested from MBNA under the Data Protection Act 1988 as I believe the above debt to contain fair proportion of unlawful penalty charges. I have also issued a CCA request to xxxx under the Credit Consumer Act 1974.

 

Please be adivsed that this debt is unenforceable whilst in dispute and any action taken by yourselves will be vigorously defended. Furthermore, I am presently continuing reduced payments as per agreed by MBNA themselves (see attached correspondence). In this light, not only will any action by you be defended, but take note that I will issue a counterclaim for stress and damages.

 

I am frankly shocked by the contents of you letter, which uses the term 'we will send bailiffs'. I am forwarding a copy of your letter to Trading Standards with an official complaint as your abuse of power is obviously intended to intimidate. As you are well aware, you do not have the authority to send bailiffs without a court order.

 

I trust this now clarifies my position.

 

Yours faithfully,

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Ok. Send CCA request to Arrow. When your SAR request comes back from MBNA it should include details of the debt being passed on. Once the SAR comes back, then write back to them saying that they did not include a copy of the original agreement and that you would like a copy. What should happen, is that Arrow cant supply it, then thats because they cant get one from MBNA because they dont have it.

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Yes. But by that time, you will probably know whether or not one is available as Arrow will have sent this to you. If they dont, then you can point this out to MBNA and ask them where it is. You could ask MBNA for it, but you are just asking for it twice. Upto you.

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A CCA request requires them to include a copy of the agreement AND deed of assignment. How much they bought the debt for will be difficult to get out of them. They can be made to disclose this at court. You will probably have a better chance of getting this information from MBNA. Wait til SAR comes back, we can see what is missing and then request it.

 

You are not driving me up the wall lol. Its a pleasure to help!

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Its just a waiting game now. Try not to worry. You have done everything to resolve this and any court will see their incompetence.

 

The debt is now in dispute and court action will only leave them with egg on their faces. I doubt very much that they will issue any action at this stage.

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Give them enough rope and they will hang themselves. Eversheds letter is bullying and intimidatory. I would make a complaint to Trading Standards and the Law Society. Copy the letter to both, together with copies of your letters disputing the debt. Are you making payments directo to MBNA as agreed? Any action they take can be counterclaimed! This is just unbelievable. Right arm doesnt know what left arm is doing! Most importantly, if you continue making payments, this will make them look even more aggressive.

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No not yet, but hopefully sorted soon.

 

Im glad you've been getting your complaints off. The more fuss we kick up the more chance they will think twice in the future and some poor soul will be spared the same despair.

 

Credit cards are a very expensive luxury unless you are able to pay the balance in full every month. Not many of us can afford to do that despite our best intentions.

 

A little tip for the future which not many people know: When you transfer a balance onto a 0% card, all your payments go to pay off the lowest interest balance. Therefore, your purchases sit there, sometimes for years accruing interest upon interest until the transferred balance is totally paid off in full. You will have paid far more than you had saved.

 

The trick is to use another card for purchases and never spend on the card you have transferred the balance onto.

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You are doing fine. Of course you are happy to pay Arrow the agreed sum, providing they honour your CCA request.

 

The worst that can happen now, is that all court action will have been cancelled, you will have more affordable monthly payments, and the debt will be significantly reduced when the charges are reclaimed.

 

What a lovely day it is today!

 

Corn..... you have won already! Results are coming in fast and furious. Before you found this site, you were in despair! You have come a long way since then and things are looking up.

 

 

As per our conversation, there is one last card which just might be an Ace. xxx

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