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    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

      Please can you advise what I need to do today to get this done. 
       

      Many thanks 
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    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

      OT APPROVED, 365MC637, FAROOQ, EVRi, 12.07.23 (BRENT) - J v4.pdf
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FCA Automotive services (now CA auto finance) Claimform - Shortfall after Car Repo.


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Please follow the instructions above – but also can you tell us what pre-action protocol the claimants followed.

How long ago did they contact you and warn you about the forthcoming action – and please post up their communication to you about this in PDF format.

Also, if you were in the middle of an FOS investigation and the lender knew about this, then it seems to me that they are not treating you fairly and you would have the basis of a counterclaim under the conduct of business rules – COBS which requires that they treat you fairly and communicate with you fairly.
That, apart from anything else.

Also, I notice that you haven't identified the lender. Is there a reason for that? Are you trying to protect them?

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  • dx100uk changed the title to FCA Automotive services (now CA auto finance) Claimform - Shortfall after Car Repo.

As long as you are honest and straight dealing then there is no information here that would ever prejudice you. Don't forget at court cases you would be required to disclose in advance any information you are going to rely upon so there is no question of ambushing the other side.
Disclose information here and we can help you.
Interesting that you are proposing to rely on CONC. It has been so long since I put that out I had forgotten all about it. It will be very seem to see what you say about it and what they say about it.
However does a breach of the CONC rule confer a direct flight of action to private citizens? You need to check this because there are lots of FCA regulations which sound great but actions in respect of those can only be taken directly by the FCA and there are no private rights of action.

Even if you are able to cite CONC in a counterclaim, you should absolutely cite COBS because there is definitely a right of action for individuals in respect of failure to treat you fairly or communicate with you fairly. There is nothing to stop you relying on both of these sets of regulations in a counterclaim – and you should do.
I suggest that you draft your defence and also your counterclaim and post it up here so we can have a look.

Don't worry about the other side seeing it. Who cares? What can they do if they suddenly see it a week or so before they actually receive it through the post?

If you have to rely on surprise and ambushed then frankly it means that you don't have much of a case to argue

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