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    • I found that the parkin attended has a car with CCTV camera on it, however as I stated earlier, it seems that he did not take video of my car otherwise they would have stated so in the SAR. parking car .pdf
    • The rules state that "approved devices may only be used in limited circumstances"  I was not a threat. I was not present. I did not drive away. I think he has not fulfilled the necessary requirements justifying issuing me a PCN by post therefore the PCN was issued incorrectly and not valid.  What are your thoughts?  
    • I have also found this:  D.2 Service of a PCN by post: 54) There are some circumstances in which a PCN (under Regulation 10) may be served by post: 1) where the contravention has been detected on the basis of evidence from an approved device (approved devices may only be used in limited circumstances) 2) if the CEO has been prevented, for example by force, threats of force, obstruction or violence, from serving the PCN either by affixing it to the vehicle or by giving it to the person who appears to be in charge of that vehicle 3) if the CEO had started to issue the PCN but did not have enough time to finish or serve it before the vehicle was driven away and would otherwise have to write off or cancel the PCN 55) In any of these circumstances a PCN is served by post to the owner and also acts as the NtO. The Secretary of State recommends that postal PCNs should be sent within 14 days of the contravention. Legislation states that postal PCNs must be sent within 28 days, unless otherwise stated in the Regulations. This from London Councils Code of Practice on Civil Parking Enforcement.  The question is what is an approved device? Certainly, he had the opportunity to place the ticket on my car and I didn't drive away.  I looked further and it seems that an approved device is a CCTV camera - It seems that the photos taken were not actual film but images and it is not clear if they are taken from a video or are stills. I'm guessing if it was moving images then the SAR would have stated this.    From the Borough of Hounslow website: "There are two types of PCN issued under the Traffic Management Act 2004, which governs parking contraventions. The first is served on-street by a Civil Enforcement Officer, who will observe a vehicle and collect evidence before serving the PCN either by placing it in a plastic wallet under the windscreen wiper, or by handing it to the driver. The second is a PCN served by post, based on CCTV footage taken by an approved device, which has been reviewed by a trained CCTV Operator."   From Legislation.gov.uk regarding approved devices: Approved Devices 4.  A device is an approved device for the purposes of these Regulations if it is of a type which has been certified by the Secretary of State as one which meets requirements specified in Schedule 1. SCHEDULE 1Specified requirements for approved devices 1.  The device must include a camera which is— (a)securely mounted on a vehicle, a building, a post or other structure, (b)mounted in such a position that vehicles in relation to which relevant road traffic contraventions are being committed can be surveyed by it, (c)connected by secure data links to a recording system, and (d)capable of producing in one or more pictures, a legible image or images of the vehicle in relation to which a relevant road traffic contravention was committed which show its registration mark and enough of its location to show the circumstances of the contravention. 2.  The device must include a recording system in which— (a)recordings are made automatically of the output from the camera or cameras surveying the vehicle and the place where a contravention is occurring, (b)there is used a secure and reliable recording method that records at a minimum rate of 5 frames per second, (c)each frame of all captured images is timed (in hours, minutes and seconds), dated and sequentially numbered automatically by means of a visual counter, and (d)where the device does not occupy a fixed location, it records the location from which it is being operated. 3.  The device and visual counter must— (a)be synchronised with a suitably independent national standard clock; and (b)be accurate within plus or minus 10 seconds over a 14-day period and re-synchronised to the suitably independent national standard clock at least once during that period. 4.  Where the device includes a facility to print a still image, that image when printed must be endorsed with the time and date when the frame was captured and its unique number. 5.  Where the device can record spoken words or other audio data simultaneously with visual images, the device must include a means of verifying that, in any recording produced by it, the sound track is correctly synchronised with the visual image.
    • Hearing took place today.  Case dismissed with costs awarded. Neither UKPC or a representative turned up.  Apparently they messaged the court on 7 May asking for their case to be considered on paper.  Never informed me, which was criticised by the judge as not following procedure.  I was really annoyed as I would have preferred for the case to be thrown out before the hearing, or at least face them in court and see them squeal.   They are just playing a numbers game and hope you blink 1st!   Ended up having to change my flight, but  the costs awarded softens the blow. Was asked to confirm it was my signature on both the witness statement and supplementary statement.  Wasn't asked to read them, said she could see my arguments made and the signs were insufficient and no contract formed. Took maybe 10 mins in total.  Judge did most of the talking and was best for me just to keep quiet or confirm any statements made. Happy to have won as a matter of principle and have costs awarded. Maybe not worth all the time and hassle for any newbies or the technologically challenged.  But if you are stubborn like me and willing to put in the time and effort, you can beat these vultures! I big shout out to everyone who helped on the thread with their advice and guidance, special mention to FTMDave, thank you sir!  Really appreciate everyone's efforts. All the best!
    • I plan to be honest to avoid any further trouble, tell them that the name should be changed to my official name
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    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

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    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

      OT APPROVED, 365MC637, FAROOQ, EVRi, 12.07.23 (BRENT) - J v4.pdf
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thanks lattie - i see you're trying to save me from becoming a quivering alcohlic wreck lol

it's working i''m really quite calm :| xx

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gosh.. hope i can join you guys in your drinking spree!! im afraid even cyber alcohol is banned from me.. teehee.. toes and fingers crossed now guys!

[FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=1][COLOR=purple]S.A.R. sent 30 October-reply received 10 november[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=1][COLOR=purple]Prelim letter sent 28 november- no reply[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=1][COLOR=purple]LBA sent 13 december- no reply[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=1][COLOR=purple]MCOL filed 30 december- issued 02/01/07[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=1][COLOR=#800080]loveletter from colin received 02/01/07-saying will get in touch on feb 9[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=1][COLOR=#800080]acknowledged claim on 4 jan- has until 1 feb to defend.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=1][COLOR=#800080]defence entered 31 jan 2007[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=1][COLOR=#800080]offer received 1-2-2007... still waiting for the moolah though:cool: ...[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=1][COLOR=#800080]and moolah arrives 1-march 2007!!! Praise the Lord!!!![/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

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hi all

well in the post today was the 'notice of issue' from northampton!!! blimey that was quick

so now i presume i sit tight and watch the mcol site for any change in status. the bank has until the 3rd febuary to respond.... tumtitum tumtitum tumtitum lol

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in one way yeah.. but in another i hope they're so slow they miss all deadlines and miss me completely so i can press the judgement by default button lol.

my son was just standing by me and asked 'mum why do you have so many pages... i guess u chat s**t too much'!!!!

charming!! lol

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can't get me breath... only got the notice of issue from the court yesterday and just been on mcol site and see that bank have acknowledged already!!!! is this a record????

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fraid not!, now when you get the paperwork for the acknowledgment -know what to do? send 3 copies to the court referencing your claim number and 1 copy to dg - address on pg2 of the ack. also referencing your claim number - it will come in 3-4 days.

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i just spent about an hour looking for a thread for a guy and it is just above the posts in the hsbc stuff - i'm an idiot sometimes - i'm off to bed! just thought i'd pass that along......i remember telling bong i was going to retire when i reached my 100th post - i did, for about a week and then came crawling back - because i enjoy helping people.

looks like i'll see 1000 posts by tomorrow. can't believe it! it really tickles me to see people get their offers and then their money back.

i'll stick around long enough to see you get yours netty, won't be too long!

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awww lattie... thank you so much, and congratulations on reaching your 1000th thread (nearly). believe me, every thread you have posted has been well appreciated by me and everybody else i'm certain. sleep tight xx

aw that's really nice.

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fraid not!, now when you get the paperwork for the acknowledgment -know what to do? send 3 copies to the court referencing your claim number and 1 copy to dg - address on pg2 of the ack. also referencing your claim number - it will come in 3-4 days.

 

Send 3 copies of what to the court? Copies of the acknowledgement paperwork or copies of the schedlue of charges?

 

Sorry for the hijack :)

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schedule of charges rundll... yeah i know... we've already sent them a copy but this is what we are advised to do!! i'm just going to do as i'm told lol

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lol.. they probably do have photocopiers but just haven't got time to get to one because all the claims they're sitting under. also there's all those trees to consider... doesn't your heart just bleed for them?

incidentally, we are also advised to fax, email, post, esp anything!! just to make sure dg have our copies lol

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just to clarify - the advice does get diluted from time to time, also, i forget who i've told what to, so, i'll do this for all of you guys:

when you've filed mcol - they don't have a copy of your mcol( had you filed an n1 instead, you include copies with it - so no, at this point mcol doesn't have a copy of your breakdown, that's why you are sending 3 copies to the court - the northhampton address on your acknowled. or issue papers. also, send 1 copy to dg - address on pg 2 of the acknolw.

They always seem to work their way to your claim and then ask for a breakdown (it's a stall - of course they have it), so, beat them to it and send one. on all that correspondence - reference your claim number.

also, sending it to dg - gives you a reason to call a little later on - "to be sure they have received it" this bumps you up to the top of somebody's pile, also, it ensures your claim hasn't fallen behind somebody's desk.

if you have sent the breakdown and they file their defense - i then advise lots of activity to try to get an offer before the aq is due (that will come with the aq paperwork, a transfer to local court and a copy of their defense), they normally file their defense like clockwork on the 28th day - but keep on top of the judgment button - you could get to press it. (even if you do - it could get overturned by the judge and they would allow their defense to go in - they seem to get leeway here).

now, here's a little titbit. just yesterday we saw a claim where - they forgot to enter an acknowledgment - so after 14 days from the service date - claimant presses for judgment and they must have dropped the ball on this one - because they ended up a week or so later just putting the money into the account - they paid up at acknow. stage because they didn't follow the plan. so, i'm only saying - keep your eye on the ball.

you never know with dg.

i'm rambling - but hoping to instill confidence in you who have just filed - you are getting closer to your money with every passing day.

 

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if you have sent the breakdown and they file their defense - i then advise lots of activity to try to get an offer before the aq is due (that will come with the aq paperwork, a transfer to local court and a copy of their defense), they normally file their defense like clockwork on the 28th day - but keep on top of the judgment button - you could get to press it.

 

Thanks for the help lateralus, really appreciated. Ive taken to posting all my questions here as netty and I are at the same stage :) Hope thats ok netty.

 

Lateralus, if you could just elaborate on what you mean above? You advise lots of activity, on our part? And presuming they do file their defense in time, whats the drill then.

 

This is so exciting :)

 

Thanks in advance

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Thanks for the help lateralus, really appreciated. Ive taken to posting all my questions here as netty and I are at the same stage :) Hope thats ok netty.

 

Lateralus, if you could just elaborate on what you mean above? You advise lots of activity, on our part? And presuming they do file their defense in time, whats the drill then.

 

This is so exciting :)

 

Thanks in advance

Rund

 

hi rundll.. lattie means that we've got to hassle them by ringing them all the time to make sure they've got our breakdown - this ensures that it hasn't fallen down the back of a radiator somewhere in their office - and it comes to somebody's attention so we get to the top of the pile... this ok?

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