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Smart/CST PAPLOC ANPR PCN - B&M Morley, Leeds - but i paid!!


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Afternoon everyone!

 

Hope you are well. 

I just received a letter from CST LAW stating that they are instructed by Debt Recovery Plus Limited to commence legal action against me to recover the amount outstanding... I will upload letter.

 

Long story short, I did pay when I parked, for the parking fee, £1, and it covered the time parked, however, my car registration was wrong  (incompleted). Because I had paid I ignored all the letters... but that was a year ago. How stupid I was... 😔

 

Is there any way I can get out of the fine? I am stressing a lot now... Any help much appreciated. 

 

Many thanks 

 

 

 

 

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Thank you HB!

Hope is slightly coming back...

Please, see as below:

 

For PCN's received through the post [ANPR camera capture]

(must be received within 14 days from the Incident)

 

please answer the following questions.

 

1 Date of the infringement

18\10\2019
 

 

2 Date on the NTK [this must have been received within 14 days from the 'offence' date]

25\10\2019
 

[scan up BOTHSIDES as ONE PDF- follow the upload guide]

please do not put JPG Picture files into your post

 

3 Date received

Can't remember
 

4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? [Y/N?]

No
 

5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event?

Yes
 

6 Have you appealed? [Y/N?] post up your appeal]

No
 

Have you had a response? [Y/N?] post it up

N\A
 

7 Who is the parking company?

Smart Parking 

 

8. Where exactly [carpark name and town]

B&M Morley, Leeds
 

For either option, does it say which appeals body they operate under.

They said to appeal to Smart Parking
 

There are two official bodies, the BPA and the IAS. If you are unsure,

please check HERE

 

If you have received any other correspondence, please mention it here

After two letters from Smart Parking, I got at least a letter from Debt Recovery Plus and the latest the LBC by CST LAW

 

Many thanks!

 

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  • dx100uk changed the title to Smart/CST PAPLOC ANPR PCN - B&M Morley, Leeds - but i paid!!
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Hi! 

Anyone to have a quick look to this? Many, many thanks.

 

Claimant: Smart Parking LTD

Vehicle Reg: 

 

Dear CST Law,

 I am in receipt of your letter dated the 20th November 2020 and have noted its contents.

Unfortunately for you I cannot accept this shoddily thrown together piece of tripe to be a LBC as it fails miserably to come anywhere near a LBC as required under the revised Civil Procedure Regulations and so would expect a court to summarily dismiss any claim later made by you or your client on that basis.

 

Could you please give me a clear summary of the facts on which the claim is based???

 

So, to make sure that there is no misunderstanding, I deny that any monies are owed to your client by myself. Even the British Parking Association have given in and changed their stance. The same applies to the inflated amount of the claim!! the POFA and contract law are very clear on this point and again plenty of examples of dismissed claims are in the public domain. Remember DJ Harvey at Lewes in May?

 It would be wise if you took your obligations you signed up to when being entered onto the SRA roll and advised your clients it is not in their interests to continue with this matter as they have no cause for action and I shall seek a full costs recover order for any civil claim made under the unreasonableness criteria.

 

Yours Sincerely,

 

Dears sirs at CST Law,

 

 I am in receipt of your letter dated the 20th November 2020 and have noted its contents.

Unfortunately for you I cannot accept this shoddily thrown together piece of tripe to be a LBC as it fails miserably to come anywhere near a LBC as required under the revised Civil Procedure Regulations and so would expect a court to summarily dismiss any claim later made by you or your client on that basis.

Could you please give me a clear summary of the facts on which the claim is based???

 

So, to make sure that there is no misunderstanding, I deny that any monies are owed to your client by myself. Even the British Parking Association have given in and made real clear their stance in their Code of Practice. The same applies to the inflated amount of the claim!! the POFA and contract law are extremely clear on this point and again plenty of examples of dismissed claims are in the public domain. Remember DJ Harvey at Lewes in May?

 

 Your client have suffered no loss for which to pursue me, so it would be wise if you took your obligations you signed up to when being entered onto the SRA roll and advised your clients it is not in their interests to continue with this matter as they have no cause for action and I shall seek a full costs recover order for any civil claim made under the unreasonableness criteria.

 

Yours Sincerely,

 

@BankFodder Sorry, I don't know how to emerge the threads.

 

Hello everyone,

 

The deadline for my LBC to be answered is Sunday 20th December. Obviously I haven't send it yet, and I can't think of how to get the letter there before the 20th, unless I drive down tomorrow and put it through the letter hole myself (and I am seriously considering it if it will be enough), but I am not sure that would be sufficient. 

 

Could somebody please advice? 

 

Many thanks,

 

SS

 

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Hello everyone,

 

The deadline for my LBC to be answered is Sunday 20th December. Obviously I haven't send it yet, and I can't think of how to get the letter there before the 20th, unless I drive down tomorrow and put it through the letter hole myself (and I am seriously considering it if it will be enough), but I am not sure that would be sufficient. 

 

Could somebody please advice? 

 

Many thanks,

 

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I have had loads of problems (one of them redundancy) since I last came to the website, and even though I did my research and tried to go through all the EB snotty letters, I was not able to compose a letter that I thought it was correct. I am clearly going to miss the deadline as it would have been 30 days next Sunday, so could anyone explain me what is the next thing to expect?

 

Many thanks in advance,

 

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Really? 🥺 Best news ever @dx100uk

 

I have been doing research, I am just not good at putting it together. 

 

I understand about de minimis and that Smart Parking is under BPA so the error should have resulted in a £20 administration fee because more than 3 digits were missing from the registration. But I don't know how to put it down in the reply.

 

Also, having read the PD- PRE Action court, I understand the LBC was not up to standards, as it is not showing a clear summary of the facts and basis for the claim.

 

I don't know, I might have just been reading too much...

 

Ty

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That’s amazing @FTMDave. I am printing it first thing in the morning. The only thing that worries me a bit now is that I have not made the point to anyone ( cause I didnt reply anything earlier) that I paid for the parking. So I was thinking to add after crystal clear. “As you can see in the enclosed copy, there was a valid proof of payment for the parking on that day.” 
 

And I will send a copy to Smart Parking. Thank you for pointing it out :) 

 

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@FTMDave yes, I did 🙂 I got proof of postage, and I sent the letter first class. The letter that you corrected for me plus a sentence to tell them I was attaching the ticket. I was thinking about SmartParking: should I post a copy of that letter, or should I use the appeal process online through their website? As you said, they might drop it when I send them the ticket... 

 

Many, many thanks! 

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I showed the letter to my friend and she said to me that if they go to court and the judge gets it, he will be displeased with me... That’s making me nervous now. 
 

I guess I will have to take it in the chin if that goes that way... 

 

Has that happened before? 😟

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Dear Simple Simon sounds like an EB snotty letter 😃 

 

It’s all just very stressful... they do take advantage and I am not a confrontational person... but I hate paying for something that it’s not right. 
 

You are all a good bunch! As soon as this is sorted: a round on me ☺️
 

Cheers guys! 

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