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IMO no bank is more guilty than the next - it just depends on what status your account is in with them. If you're in credit and you are using the bank for all it's use of course it will be a wonderful bank.

 

Realistically, any bank is great until you get into problems and you WILL find out that none of them are willing to help you. In keeping with this, one person may loathe Natwest eg whilst the next person thinks they're great. It's just down to each individual's experiences with them.

 

Look at First Direct - when it first opened it was fabulous, what a refreshing change to personal banking! But now look at them - it's name is no better than the next bank and why? Because people have had time to get into debt with them.

 

Realistically, RBS could have been anyone and you'd be here now cursing them out. I know this will not be warmly welcomed, but IMO (and I am critical of myself when I say this) the honus is on us to ensure we don't get into difficult situations as much as possible - in much the same way as Battleaxe has done. I do realise that many people will not be able to influence their circumstances and get into debt through no fault of their own and I'm not on about you. But for the rest of us, it is too easy to not take responsibility and put your head in the sand - I know because I did!

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EDITED TO MAKE MUCH MORE SENSE :D.......

 

Whatever percentage of the original loan was made up of bank charges, is the claimable percentage of the interest.

 

Does that make sense :?

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Alison - there are two ways you can do it - firstly you could just share the interest between the 8 participating accounts equally - but I wouldn't advise that as some debts would be bigger than others so leaves room for arguments with the "lesser debts" charging more in the proportion of interest allocated to that individual debt interest being charged??

 

The other way is to total up the whole sum of the debts together. Then allocate the interest to each one with it's varying proportion of the debt interest you'd be charging etc.. At least that way you'd be nearer a correct figure for each debts responsibility?

 

My thought here is that a debt of 50 pounds wouldn't be as responsible as a debt of say 2000 pounds?? by trying to add them together and using each one with it's own percentage may be less arguable?

 

I am hoping someone can explain with a better option for you!!

 

That is what I was getting at. Say you had a loan for 10000 and had 3 accounts that this was paying off:

 

A 1000

B 3000

C 6000

 

Each account would be accountable for a proportion of the loan and therefore a proportion of the interest.

 

A 1000/10000 = 10%

B 3000/10000 = 30%

C 6000/10000 = 60%

 

So if the interest was 3000 over the life of the loan they would accountable for:

 

A 3000 x 10% = 300

B 3000 x 30% = 900

C 3000 x 60% = 1800

 

That is how I would work it out in it's simplest terms, not saying this is correct but it is what I would do.

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But if these accounts had charges, would you not be in the process of taking action against them already?

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You would be paying interest on that loan to your loan company. The loan company would not be liable for the extra interest you were paying due to charges you had incurred with another lender. the original lender would.

Agreed

 

So, how would you approach this? Would you then have to take a seperate action against the original lender for the extra interest you had been put to by borrowing elsewhere? This could be a real tricky one?

Well I would think this is your only option but what I was referring to, is if you had charges from not just the loan company but also the other lenders who you are referring to, you would also (I would assume) be taking action against them already, so this would then become a portion of your claim (if, that is, this is a viable road to go down).

 

I as much as you am just speculating right now, not really sure of the answer, just adding my two pence worth.

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Well personally, I think you are in a strong position here. A loan is (nearly) always going to make more sense than a credit card if you are not going to be able to settle you credit card balance in the near future because of the lower interest rate meaning you are paying less back. HOWEVER and I am talking from my own experiences it is essential to cut up the settled cards and cancel the accounts otherwise in a years time you WILL (most likely anyway) end up with twice the debt.

 

If you have been offered all this up front, you have a cracking opportunity to reduce your outgoings by lowering your rate (I am assuming the rate will be lower of course) and then in a month's time once your charges have been settled you could then clear a large percentage of the loan and as a result bringing closer the day when you are debt free as it were.

 

Obviously this is one scenario and I'm sure others will have other opinions but I think the relevance for you is slightly different to a lot on this thread because you haven't yet got the loan and therefore are paying interest upon consolidated charges.

 

 

In summary, your main goal I would presume is to become debt free. I would take the loan(s), snap up the interest free one asap, cancel the cards then use your eventual refund to reduce the high-interest loan.

 

JMHO

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Cancelling them helps too!!

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And of course, you need to make sure you carry out your plans. You could potentially end up with twice the debt (by clearing your cards with a loan, then maxing them again) so you need to ensure you are strict with yourself. I've been there done that....not good!

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I have been working on a spreadsheet to help calculate this, and plan to make this available to all, once I feel it is correct.

 

Sounds interesting! Will certainly be interested in having a look. Will be pming you my addy now.......

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