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    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

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      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
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      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

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Excel/BW/Elms ANPR PCN PAPLOC Now Claimform - But i paid! - Providince St Wakefield WF1 3BG ***Claim Dismissed***


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ignore until/unless you get a letter of/before claim from BW or a claimform from northants bulk court

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NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

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are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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you don't use any of their forms

 

simply write a somewhat abusive letter back to BW regarding you have a ringo receipt.

don't hold back either...

 

if you use the search cag box of the top red toolbar

 

letter of claim PCN BW legal

or

same but gladstones

 

you'll get the idea

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

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are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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No let them waste their time finding it

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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thread tidied.

 

elms … urm.. looks like a one man band armchair advocate..doesn't appear to be registered as a solicitor on mainstream authorities sites like SRA/FCA.

 

I can't find the real name behind the firm name.

 

let me pull a spies chain.

 

 

 

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NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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https://www.legalchoices.org.uk/types-of-lawyers/regulated-lawyers/legal-executives

 

read the bit about cilex practioners..a bit down..

 

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yes other spies have found these out:

note the last comment;;;

 

ELMS Legal Ltd
31 Handley Street
Sleaford
England
NG34 7TQ

 

Company Number: 09160334

 

Director: Ed Jonathan Garvey Shoreman-Lawson

 

Companies House link: https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/09160334

 

Endole link: https://suite.endole.co.uk/insight/company/09160334-elms-legal-limited

 

BizDb link: https://www.bizdb.co.uk/company/landlords-lawyer-ltd-09160334/

 

CILEx Regulation ID: 2164466, Edmund Shoreman-Lawson
(at this link: https://cilexregulation.org.uk/firms/  click on 'Firm Directory' its an auto PDF download
then open PDF and go down to ELMS Legal Ltd

 

Authorised by CILEx Regulation for Civil Litigation: Authorisation No: 2164466

 

Law Society link (Edmund Jonathan Garvey Shoreman-Lawson): https://solicitors.lawsociety.org.uk/person/67740/edmund-jonathan-garvey-shoreman-lawson

 

SRA - ELMS Legal Limited (on the link check SRA-regulated people and roles whose name it is)
https://www.sra.org.uk/consumers/check-and-find-a-solicitor/solicitors-register/organisation/?sraNumber=630494#headingTwo

 

SRA - Edmund Jonathan Garvey Shoreman-Lawson (look at where this person works, VCS, MIL Collections)
https://www.sra.org.uk/consumers/check-and-find-a-solicitor/solicitors-register/person/?firstName=Edmund&lastName=Jonathan&sraNumber=537827

 

Linkedin link: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/edmund-shoreman-lawson-34557b127

 

This guy does use different versions of his name from full name to leaving some off name.

 

What you will notice is Mr Edmund Jonathan Garvey Shoreman-Lawson himself is SRA Regulated but ELMS Legal Limited, Vehicle Control Services Ltd & MIL Collection Limited are all not SRA Regulated.

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NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I wouldn't worry 

they won't know any diff send the snotty letter.

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If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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so you've not read any PCN claimform threads here?

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NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

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are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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  • dx100uk changed the title to Excel/BW/Elms ANPR PCN PAPLOC Now Claimform - But i paid! - Providince St Wakefield WF1 3BG

any have elms been notified as a change of sols? no..

i would write to the court and explain you will be moving and request a move to your local court xxxx

they have months and months to do this.

 

you have already filed your defence

its witness statement time now

the filing of which is clearly detailed on the court letter.

 

and ofcouse their fee payment date that excel might never make....

 

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

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are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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would be nice to see the witness statements...

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are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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have you the claimants ws yet?

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NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

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are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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can't see them harming you further then by having a email.

 

On 06/01/2021 at 11:53, dx100uk said:

would be nice to see the witness statements...

should you need to issue anything further

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If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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we will need their exhibits but not each cover sheet.

 

like the last sentence ...no!! thats not an excuse to charge unicon food tax.

 

name the person . they rely upon heresay evidence too and don't state that in relation to the CPR clauses they must. and ofcourse must be present upon the hearing else no dice batman..

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1 hour ago, lookinforinfo said:

Did the sar also include a copy of their contract and the Council permission for their signage and ANPR cameras

 

nothing to do with the OP under GDPR

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If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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