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Used brothers 16+ oyster for a month - TfL Fare prosecution **RESOLVED NOTHING TO PAY**


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I used my brothers 16+ oystercard for a month  and was finally caught out by an inspector on the bus.

 

Could someone help me draft a letter to write to them?

 

Or give me advice on what my next best move is

 

Hi , I recently used my brothers 16+ oystercard and had been using it for about a month but was discovered by a TfL inspector.

 

Could someone help me draft a letter to email them?

 

And could I get any advice on what my next best move is please 

 

I cannot afford to receive a criminal offence , I’m only 18 and I’m willing to pay for any costs incurred on their side

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I’ve written up a draft any feedback would be much appreciated   

 

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To whoever it may concern, 

I apologise profusely for my actions in this case. As a student currently in my last year of 6th form , a criminal record would be devastating for myself as my future employment relies upon a clean criminal record. I pride myself on my integrity and I feel shameful for my moment of very poor judgement 

 

On the 2nd of October , I used the oystercard as I was in a rush in the morning and was in the process of applying for my 18+ student oyster . I was stupors one the bus by a TfL inspector who withdrew the card and when I asked what would happen to me said that only a £40 fine would be sent to me , which I was very happy to pay for.

 

i made a thoughtless choice that has been affecting me since and has had an impact on my focus in lesson. I have never done anything like this before and I am sorry for my behaviour and the inconvenience caused to all parties involved. 
 

I am happy to make immediate payment of the unpaid fare and any incurrent costs that my actions have caused. I am  in the process of applying for an 18+student oyster so I will not make an action like this again 

 

Also, I work as a form prefect in school  which involves me mentoring the lower year students. A criminal record would lead to me being stripped of this position, which would make me sad as I worked very hard to earn the role.

 

I would appreciate your consideration and I sincerely hope that you can show me some leniency in this matter 

 

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  • dx100uk changed the title to Used brothers 16+ oyster for a month - TfL Fare prosecution

Thank you, I’ve had a look. 
 

would it be better if I say that it was only for temporary use until my Oyster card appears. 
 

And since then I’ve been using my card for transport should I mention that? As like prop I’ve learnt my lesson

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I’ve looked at the cases but can’t see anything that isn’t where they’ve used it as an accident or as a mistake 

 

If I am convicted , how long would it stay on my record as I want to be a teacher and I have a retail job at the minute

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Hi I just received an email saying we have received your email and we do not settle cases out of court and a single justice procedure notice will be sent in due time . 
 

I sent a letter off almost two weeks ago but he did not mention it , could it be that they didn’t receive it?

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Thank you I’ve seen a case very similar to mine on there , also there is a name and number to contact at the bottom of the email should I do that tomorrow?

 

And I also have a holiday booked in December to America ( it was booked months ago before this) will I still be able to go?

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Hi it’s been a while, I received my court papers for the 20th of February 

 

They said I’m being charged for the following 

offence 1: public service vehicle - passenger use travel mandate issued for another personal 

 

contrary to regulation 7(1)(b) of the public service vehicles regulations 1990 and the section 25 of the public passenger vehicles act 1981

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Sorry the other uses weren’t listed just that one day , I’m not sure who to send a letter to 

 

Also I don’t know whether it’s worth mentioning that I included a bank statement for the last month of daily payments made to TfL as I’m still in school.

 

Also my uni that I want to go to does background checks for my course so I mentioned that.

The letter didn’t state anything along that isn’t enough mitigation

 

should I call the IAp or email them?

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Sorry it’s been a while.

I went to court and changed my plea to guilty and told them I was sorry etc I was begging .

The TfL prosecutor was like technically you’re entitled to a 16+ Oyster card and as you had just turnt 18

I’ll have to check with my boss if we need to further prosecute you.

 

Exchanged some emails and they ended up not taking it further.

I didn’t have to pay a penny and I have no record.

Thank you for all the help !

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