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Has it been more than 6 years since the last suspended possession order?

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The application is for permission to apply for a warrant of possession (not to grant a warrant) - they have asked for the order without a hearing, which means no one will attend the court - it will be a paper exercise only.

 

My advice would be to write to the lender stating your offer and asking them not to enforce the order as long as you keep to the payments. I can help you with a letter if you need me to.

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Ring the court on Monday morning and ask if you ned to attend - I don't think you do as the lender has asked for the order without a hearing. I think it is only an application by the lender to be allowed to issue an eviction warrant ( warrant of possession) as it has been over 6 years since the last one. If the application is granted then the lender will be able to issue an eviction warrant - you will then have to apply to the court to have it stopped.

 

It is unlikely that the court will not allow the order as your arrears are extremely high, so I don't think it will make any difference if you object.

 

When you stopped paying the mortgage due to a dispute did you put the money away in case you needed to pay it ?

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Do you have any letters received from their arrears department?

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I asked if you had any letters from the arrears dept as it would have an address on. if you have the telephone number for the arrears department ring them in the morning and ask for a dedicated email address and also their direct postal address - don't get into any discussion about the account, just say you are taking advice and need to send them some information urgently.

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It doesn't need to be before Wednesday - there is no hearing as we have already explained srveral times

 

In order for me to help you with the letter I will need some information - please answer the following in order:

 

1. is the mortgage in joint names ?

2. how long has the mortgage left to run?

3. how much can you comfortably afford to pay each month towards the arrears?

remember you will have to prove your income and expenditure in court if the lender does go ahead with an eviction warrant and we have to put in a defence.

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OK, I'll draft a letter for you in the morning as I'm working on something else tonight. Are you able to work with Word documents ?

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Hi, affixed is a draft letter - you need to put your address at the top and the correct lender department and address where indicated.

 

Sign the letter and make sure you take a copy and keep it safe as we may need it to put with a court defence.

 

Send by Special Delivery (costs around £6 but they get it next day and have to sign for it) make sure you keep the postal receipt safe as it will have a tracking number on it - you then check on the royal mail website a few days after posting the print off the signature receipt - keep that safe with the copy letter.

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Don't ring them! wait for their reply. I expect the court will advise you of the decision, but they can take quite a while to get the letters out so don't be surprised if it doesn't appear for a week or so.

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You should most definitely pay what you have offered in your letter. If they do apply for an eviction warrant then we will be able to show that you have kept to the arrangement you offered.

 

The 9 year old SPO will always be valid, however if they haven't actioned it in the last 6 years they have to ask the court for permission to do so. As you have got into quite a bit of arrears they are probably covering themselves in case your arrears get worse and they have to try for eviction.

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The complaint will make no difference to your offer - it's a separate issue.

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I would suggest using the affixed budget sheet - it calculates automatically and it's easier to see what's left over etc.

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It might be an idea to send the budget sheet with a letter along the following lines:

 

Re Account No XXXXX

 

Dear Sirs,

 

Following your request for income and expenditure details please find affixed budget sheet which shows my ability to sustain the offer of £XXX per month towards the arrears on the account.

 

Your response to this offer will be reported to the court in defence of any enforcement action you may take as I believe I have complied with your request and made a reasonable and affordable offer of payment.

 

I trust this is sufficient for your purpose and look forward to your written acceptance of the offer of payment.

 

 

Make sure you keep a copy of the letter and send by special delivery - check it has been signed for and print off the receipt.

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Hi, the court have given them permission to issue an eviction notice so the only thing you can do now is wait and see if they do issue a warrant for eviction. If they do, then you can apply to the court for a nearing to have it stopped. This is done on an N244 and we will help you with the application.

 

You can show the court copies of your letters of offers of payment and proof of what you have already paid. If you can show the court that you are able to make payments going forward it is very unlikely that they will allow the eviction.

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Lets not worry about what would happen if you lost the hearing - it's highly unlikely - I've been involved in many, many eviction defences over the last 10 years or so and the only ones that lost were the ones with no income to make payments (3 or 4 out of about 300 I think) . I will help you with the N244 appliction so lets just wait and see what they do.

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So they never did apply for eviction?

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Hi there you need to write to them again explaining the August payment.   I can help you with the letter but it will be later this morning as I am at work and quite busy at the moment.

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Hi, managed to get letter done, (affixed) make sure it is sent by special delivery so they get it the next day.

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I would have sent it to the eviction team as they are the ones threatening you.................  guess you'll just have to wait and see if complaints pass it on.   You could always email a copy to the eviction team if you have their email add.

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I thought you were already paying an amount towards the arrears?   you should always pay something towards them.  They won't capitalize the arrears while you're not paying....  and you are at risk of them applying for eviction which, if you were to defend, the judge would want to know why you haven't paid towards the arrears. You're placing yourself in a very precarious position.   It's not a good idea to stop paying towards the arrears just because you haven't had a response to your letter.

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I thought you had made an offer earlier this year to pay a certain amount towards the arrears? 

 

You say you are currently not paying towards the arrears - why is that ?

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Any payment you make towards the arrears is a positive step.  Going forward you should only offer and then pay what you can comfortably afford each month.  If you keep stopping and starting payments they will keep harassing you.

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How much are the arrears and how many years are left on the mortgage?

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OK, using the Norgan rule  payments of £100 per month towards the arrears would clear them in the remaining term of the mortgage, but only just - you would need to keep those payments up for 12 years without fail.  However the lender might not be too happy about waiting 12 years and may force your hand by applying for an eviction warrant in which case you'd have to get a hearing before a judge for them to decide.  £200 per month would halve the time it takes to clear arrears.  You have to decide what sum you can afford to maintain for a long period.

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If you are complying with the terms of the suspension i.e. paying the arrears each month then I am puzzled as to why they have applied for eviction.  I think you need to speak to them in the morning to ask why they have done this.  We can still get on with the N244 application - what's the eviction date ?

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