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    • I have just read the smaller print on their signs. It says that you can pay at the end of your parking session. given that you have ten minutes grace period the 35 seconds could easily have been taken up with walking back to your car, switching on the engine and then driving out. Even in my younger days when I used to regularly exceed speed limits, I doubt I could have done that in 35 seconds even when I  had a TR5.
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    • Thank you for posting up the results from the sar. The PCN is not compliant with the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule 4. Under Section 9 [2][a] they are supposed to specify the parking time. the photographs show your car in motion both entering and leaving the car park thus not parking. If you have to do a Witness Statement later should they finally take you to Court you will have to continue to state that even though you stayed there for several hours in a small car park and the difference between the ANPR times and the actual parking period may only be a matter of a few minutes  nevertheless the CEL have failed to comply with the Act by failing to specify the parking period. However it looks as if your appeal revealed you were the driver the deficient PCN will not help you as the driver. I suspect that it may have been an appeal from the pub that meant that CEL offered you partly a way out  by allowing you to claim you had made an error in registering your vehicle reg. number . This enabled them to reduce the charge to £20 despite them acknowledging that you hadn't registered at all. We have not seen the signs in the car park yet so we do not what is said on them and all the signs say the same thing. It would be unusual for a pub to have  a Permit Holders Only sign which may discourage casual motorists from stopping there. But if that is the sign then as it prohibits any one who doesn't have a permit, then it cannot form a contract with motorists though it may depend on how the signs are worded.
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    • pop up on the bulk court website detailed on the claimform. [if it is not working return after the w/end or the next day if week time] . When you select ‘Register’, you will be taken to a screen titled ‘Sign in using Government Gateway’.  Choose ‘Create sign in details’ to register for the first time.  You will be asked to provide your name, email address, set a password and a memorable recovery word. You will be emailed your Government Gateway 12-digit User ID.  You should make a note of your memorable word, or password as these are not included in the email.<<**IMPORTANT**  then log in to the bulk court Website .  select respond to a claim and select the start AOS box. .  then using the details required from the claimform . defend all leave jurisdiction unticked  you DO NOT file a defence at this time [BUT you MUST file a defence regardless by day 33 ] click thru to the end confirm and exit the website .get a CPR 31:14 request running to the solicitors https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?486334-CPR-31.14-Request-to-use-on-receipt-of-a-PPC-(-Private-Land-Parking-Court-Claim type your name ONLY no need to sign anything .you DO NOT await the return of paperwork. you MUST file a defence regardless by day 33 from the date on the claimform.
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Hi I really need help. I have sent my first letter to abbey, 13 days ago i have had no reply but i did send it through the post. So do i resend my first letter or do i proceed to the second letter. Also i have only gone back two years with the charges as i was confused with the ten pound statment letter.... i realise i am being a wuss and need to fight my corner better. So far my abby account is £200 over the overdraft all charges and i have only been able to open a very basic account at Barclays for my student loan to be paid in. Abbey knew about my student loan and were looking forward to it being paid in my account. Where do i go from here i a want my money back please help me....

 

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Assuming that you know what charges have been taken then you don't need to do a subject data request under the Data Protection Act. Was the letter you sent to Abbey the first approach for payment letter from this site? Assuming it was then when the fourteen days are up just proceed to the Second template letter that asks for your money back.

 

Best thing though is to look thouroughly through the FAQ's, it prepares you for most eventualities before they happen, so you are prepared for any responses Abbey may (or may not) give.

 

Good luck, and remember you are in the right!!

[FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=red]22/06/2006 - Data Protection Act Letter to Abbey Sent[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=#ff0000]10/08/2006 - Prelim Letter Sent for Estimated Charges[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=#ff0000]04/09/2006 - DPA Belatedly Fulfilled[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=#ff0000]12/09/2006 - LBA Sent for Refund of £2,942.14 Including Interest[/COLOR][/FONT]

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thank for your reply seany no the letter was from another site as i was unable to find the letters on this site!!!!!! but i will proceed on to the next stage.

 

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Use the Triton House one at the bottom of the statements.

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FAQs: click here: http://READ THESE

 

Any views or opinions expressed are in good faith, to the best of my ability. I don't like to admit it, but I have been known to be wrong. Check other threads and if in doubt, seek professional advice.

 

 

Abbey: SETTLED IN FULL:lol:

BoS M/card SETTLED 27/09:lol:

Aqua CC (Halifax) SETTLED 28/06 :lol:

GMAC Request for refund 14/6; Prelim 31/7; LBA 11/9

First National Mortgage Data Protection Act sent 14/6 Statements 26/7

Cap 1 - SETTLED IN FULL:lol:

Abbey x 2: 50% offer refused AQ filed

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hi can anyone help me because i am now at the giving up stage. Abbey have filed a defence againt my claim, and i have no idea what i should do next. they have paid 465 pounds into my account which i said i did not want as i wanted the full amount, but they paid it in anyway. Now what do i do ....... please help :confused:

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Hi I have recived the questionarre this morning in the post. do i have to pay the court fees again of £80 or do i just fill out this questionarre and send it back. Also is there any help with what i should put in the questionairre. thanks so much for you help x

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hi its me again i send my questioarre back on the day i recived it. abbey ha to send theirs back by 18th, which the court have just told me they haven't. but the woman at the court also said that they will give them a few more days to send their questionarre and then i will hear from the court in a few weeks. Why oh why is it taking soooooooooo long and also about a month a go abbey paid 460 pounds into my account this took me to just 9 pounds over my over draft. I called them and said i dont want this money paid into abbey if they want me to accept the money then give me a cheque for the ammount and we will sort out how i weill pay off my account with them. they said the only way i was gettingmy money back was by them payin the money into my abbey account which covered my arrears. When i pointed out they were using the money they owed me to pay them selves they said this is how it was settled. Of course this is all on a phone conversation and not by letter. have i messed up and actully that was my payment from abbey....... please give me some advice it seems to be taking ages, i sent my first letter in july!!!!!!

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