Black Horse Car Finance Charges

[taximan45]

Hi, I had a car on finance with black horse that was recently voluntarily terminated. When I first phoned to enquire about doing this I was told there would be nothing to pay.

Now after the car has been sold they are saying I still owe them £200. I know its not a lot but its more the principal that is annoying me.

I've have asked for a full statement, which they have supplied. There were quite a few late payments, for which thay have added a £25 charge each time. Is there anything I can do about this? I was quite happy just to let the car go and let that be the end of it. There was no ppi so far as I can see and the account was not in arrears at the time of termination.

 

Thanks for any advice.

[taximan45]

And as if by magic with this mornings post comes a letter from a debt collection agency they have already passed it on to.

Any ideas how I should proceed?

[ims21]

Hi

 

You can claim those charges back...have a look at the notes in my signature about charges reclaims.

 

Who is the DCA....I would reckon they have been appointed to collect rather than having been assigned the debt. If they are just acting for BH then ignore them

 

ims

[Surfer01]

Contact the debt collection agency and tell them that as you are disputing the amount they need to pass it back to Black Horse.

[taximan45]

Hi

 

You can claim those charges back...have a look at the notes in my signature about charges reclaims.

 

Who is the DCA....I would reckon they have been appointed to collect rather than having been assigned the debt. If they are just acting for BH then ignore them

 

ims

 

Thanks for the reply. The dca is Nationwide Collection Services, in Edinburgh, which seems a bit odd if BH are in cardiff. The letter states 'Your agreement with BH has been referred to us for collection...'

I can't actually see a signature on your post, probably just me being a bit thick

[ims21]

Oh dear

 

The sigs are not showing in this thread for some reason....hang on I'll get them for you

 

BRB

[ims21]

Here you go

3. Reclaim Loan & Credit Card Charges Read Here

4. The CAG Interest Tutorial

Read Here

[taximan45]

Brilliant, thanks very much. With regard to the dca, do I just write to them and tell them the account is in dispute, will that be enough to put them off for a while?

[ims21]

I'd ignore the DCA

 

They won't go near a court if the debt is made up solely of charges.

[taximan45]

Thanks for all that.

I sent a letter last week asking for the charges to be refunded, and stated quite clearly that I do not believe the amount of the charge is fair in the actual cost to them for a late payment. I got back what I guess is a standard letter saying they don't uphold my complaint as the charges were for paying late and they are in the terms of the agreement, and I was welcome to take it up with the Ombudsman. No where in their letter do they attempt to justifiy or explain the amount of the charge.

What should my next move be?

[ims21]

Hi

 

Ok so that was your preliminary letter so the next step is a 7 or 14 day lba....pretty much the same as your prelim but headed "Letter Before Action" and with a final paragraph that of they don't refund you then you will issue in court without further notice.

 

Make sure you do a spreadsheet of the amount you are claiming and attach it to the letter...here is the relevant sheet

 

CISheet v101.xls

 

Having read up on the interest tutorial you need to decide what interest you are going to apply

 

ims

[taximan45]

OK, got a letter back offering to refund me £175, which considering the full total is over £600, I find pretty insulting.

What do I do next? Is it worth sending them a counter offer of about £400 to settle? Or should I write back to them at all and just issue court papers?

Thanks again for the advice already recieved.

[ims21]

OK so their response was to your preliminary letter or lba?

[taximan45]

Sorry, that was the response to the lba, after they completely rebuffed my preliminary letter.

[ims21]

Hi

 

OK thanks

 

So the next step would be issue in court if you want to get all of the charges and interest back.

 

If you haven't already done so, I would start reading up on court claims to get these charges back

 

ims

[susiebling365]

I am experiencing a similar problem. I see now why my account has gone from BH to Nationwide and now BH again. They are chasing me for £5000 , which is just interest and charges. The vehicle, a motorhome was repossed within the first two years of the ten year loan ( which is now), I have paid the cost of the vehicle plus interest and yet they still want this £5k I am retired now, and my partner has made me realise what a disgrace the whole agreement is, but I just want to end it now. I am retired and feel they have had enough out of a debt that wasn t really mine in the first place.

The Financial Ombudsman could n t help, although sympathetic they said it was unregulated, CAB managed to get them to freeze some charges, ( that later crept back) and solicitors just don t want to know. So reading here to see what course of action I can take to end it all and live in peace of their phone and letter messages. They threaten my credit rating and extra charges, but its not listed on my credit profile, and they admit that since the repossession they do not record anything.