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    • So if the breach occurred say Dec 2017 (first missed payment) and the default notice was issued Sept 2018 and the claim was issued 7th June 24 the claimant will of course be arguing it is within the limitation period (by 3 months)
    • Yep, I would  have brought up the other things like asking for their contract and receiving no response etc. but the mediation phone calls were rather short. Evri just said the contract was not with them (i said 1999 act response etc.) and the goodwill offer thing. Whole process took about 10 minutes in total. Seems like they don't even want to negotate in mediations anymore. "they're only given a certain amount that they can agree to in mediation per day" I mean its hard for me to say if thats the mediator paraphrasing or aa direct quote from evri I will look through that thread and share what I find, also for what its worth I also have everything I made for the previous claim WS and bundles etc. that I can tweak for this parcel, since it did go almost all the way to court and is a virtually identical case. that + this new stuff you shared above should be helpful to me
    • If I haven't referred to it before then please check out this thread another case where the claimant contracted directly with Packlink for a courier delivery service carried out by Evri. Please read this thread very carefully and eventually you will get to a point where the claimant – our OP – discovered some interesting terms and conditions and has referred to them in his case. He incorporated these into his witness statement and was given judgement – not on the basis of rights of third parties but on the basis of direct responsibility. I would suggest that use the witness statement as a model although we will want to see it before you file it off. When you find the particular post with the witness statement, please can you post a link to it here as well as a copy of the witness statement because I don't have the time to look for it at the moment and the thread is rather long. However it is very important to you and you should go through it very carefully indeed. We have applied for a transcript of the judgement and hopefully it will be along in six weeks or so. As soon as we receive it we will make it available on this sub- forum.
    • Yes they are criminal charges. The law requires you to stop/report if "...owing to the presence of a mechanically propelled vehicle on a road or other public place an accident occurs by which— [injury or damage to a third party or their property is caused]. "I would be disinclined at this stage to offer anything more than you do not believe any such accident took place.  You could provide a brief description of the altercation in an attempt to explain why another party might be making these allegations. I know it's a silly question, but are you sure that you did not collide with anything? Could you have mistaken hitting something for the other party thumping your car? Could it be that you passing closely caused him to damage something somehow?  
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      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

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      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

      Please can you advise what I need to do today to get this done. 
       

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    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

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A couple of questions

1. Are visiting costs a standard amount ? I have read somewhere that £24.50 is the standard?

2. If they visit more than once should the visit cost increase?

3. When visiting should they a) knock and b) put date and times on the letters they have posted?

 

My position is this 3 years ago rossendales visited and made a £99 council debt into £500 or they would take my car, costs were visits, levying my car and waiting whilst i went and got the cash (the last two was almost £300 of charges)

 

I paid and that was that.

 

Now I have a parking fine which has equated to £94.

They have been once and I had then been and got enough cash to cover £120 for when they came again (I wasnt in)

 

They then came again when I was out and dropped another letter through without a date (no charges mentioned) my mrs was in at that point and they didnt knock just put the letter through

 

They then came again today and again didnt knock just put the letter through, this time claiming

£30 for first visit

£40 for second

£50 for third

 

Totalling £220 for a £94 debt.

 

During this time I have tried to contact him 4 times on the phone and tried to pay the debt online (it informs me to contact the bailiff)

 

Any advice on where to go next is appreciated. I have the cash to pay the debt, but should I pay it then fight or fight then pay?

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A couple of questions

1. Are visiting costs a standard amount ? I have read somewhere that £24.50 is the standard?

2. If they visit more than once should the visit cost increase?

3. When visiting should they a) knock and b) put date and times on the letters they have posted?

 

My position is this 3 years ago rossendales visited and made a £99 council debt into £500 or they would take my car, costs were visits, levying my car and waiting whilst i went and got the cash (the last two was almost £300 of charges)

 

1. 1st visit £24.50 , 2nd visit £18

2. Yes, add 2nd visit fee £18

3. Yes they must make an effort to contact the occupier, no, the legislation doesnt provide for dates on letters posted.

 

This happened less than 6 years ago. Make a claim addressed to the council and reclaim all the fees less the £24.50, let the bailiff prove his 2nd visit £18. If the council does not cooperate then you can reclaim it in the small claims track.

 

Example particulars of claim:

 

I received a bailiff acting for the defendant collecting unpaid council tax. The bailiff charged me [£AMOUNT] in fees contrary to the Council Tax enforcement legislation which provides £24.50. The bailiff did not levy any goods and I did not sign any documents. I asked for a refund but the defendant chose not to. I claim i) the sum of [£AMOUNT], ii) Interest under Section 69 of the County Courts Act 1984 at the rate of 8% a year from the date the money became due at the daily rate of 0.00022%, iii) costs allowed by the court for research and discovery of informartion 6 hours.

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Now I have a parking fine which has equated to £94.

They have been once and I had then been and got enough cash to cover £120 for when they came again (I wasnt in)

 

They then came again when I was out and dropped another letter through without a date (no charges mentioned) my mrs was in at that point and they didnt knock just put the letter through

 

They then came again today and again didnt knock just put the letter through, this time claiming

£30 for first visit

£40 for second

£50 for third

 

Totalling £220 for a £94 debt.

 

During this time I have tried to contact him 4 times on the phone and tried to pay the debt online (it informs me to contact the bailiff)

 

Any advice on where to go next is appreciated. I have the cash to pay the debt, but should I pay it then fight or fight then pay?

Thanks

 

Your bailiffs arithmetic isnt quite right.

 

The law prescribing bailiffs fees for collecting unpaid parking tickets is Schedule 1 of the Enforcement of Road Traffic Debts (Certificated Bailiffs)(Amended 2003) Regulations 1993.

 

Letter Fee £11.20 - If letter arrives after first visit is made then its £0.00, if a bailiff says he sent a letter, you have a right to see the Certificate of Posting which has been date-stamped by a postmaster. This is not the same as a proof of posting.

 

Levying Distress up to £100 (excluding bailiffs fees but including court fees) - £28 Maximum 3 visits. Correct fee plus fine is £178.

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So is that a visit fee + letter fee as the letters have been hand posted on the visit.

 

So this far I have

Fine inc court fees £94

Visit one £33 i think

visit two £40ish

visit three $50ish

 

Total £220

 

So it shouldn't exceed £178 though. But i can still argue the last fee given that he didnt make any effort to knock etc?

 

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