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EGG refusing to entertain my PPI request on the basis that it is SB -heres the good bit-I am still paying off arrears.


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Hi there

 

They are fobbing you off

 

It might be their policy but that is not relevant.

 

Their statement that the claim remains closed is to be taken as their final decision so you are now free to go to fos (slow) or sue in court (quick).

 

What is the value of the amount you are claiming back?

 

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Dont simply be happy with the debt gone-you should chase for every penny they owe.

 

Agree 100%...thay have stung you so go for them for evrything you can get.

 

I've attached a spreadsheet you can use to calculate your claim. You will need all of the statements though. Have you got them?

 

On the spreadsheet, you only need to fill in list date in columns A (Date of Payment), B (Nature of Payment i.e. "ppi Premium) and C (Amount of Payment). The rest of the calcs are done for you. You then just need to amend the personal details in the blue section at the top of the sheet. The interest rate is what they were charging you.

 

Also do the questionaire that dx suggests.

 

ims

 

CompoundInt.xls

 

PS Martin....that's a hell of a new signature you've got there!

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Ok, it looking through my statements, it seems I had the PPI for just over a year, and then my account was passed to a DMA and they stopped it, instead of using the PPI to repay my card? I was unemployed, which they knew about at the time....! Anyway, this means that I paid out about £70 is PPI, which assuming I have done the conversion from 1.167% per month to 14.94% year, (I used Merchandise Interest) right works out at just under £180, its not a lot... however it would just about clear what I currently owe them, giving me one less debt to worry about!

 

Should I send them a letter before action along with the SOC? See what they come back with?

 

Hi hermit

 

I would deffo send them an lba and the SOC

 

Give them 14 days otherwise issue in court. Don't forget, if they do decide to defend (on £180 or so????) you'll get the court fees back.

 

if you want your spreadie checked post it up (minus personal info of course) and I'll happily have a look at it for you

 

Regards

 

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Hi, thanks, I think the spreedsheet is fine, only question would be that I've calculated the monthly interest to annual interest right? and used the right one, merchandise not cash interest rate?

 

Busy constructing my LBA now :)

 

Hi hermit

 

I'd say your interest rate is fine. After all they earned money off your money. And yes...merchandise rate is the one

 

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Hum... my floor is now covered in folders and it seems that whilst I sent a 14 day LBA to recover over £450 in charges on my Egg card in May 2008 I never received payment and I didn't start a claim in court, I was very skint at the time, and couldn't afford the fee's.

 

I will double check tomorrow that I haven't received the money somewhere else, maybe deducted from the outstanding balance, although I'm fairly sure it hasn't been, and if no money will start on this again! Can I just start again with a 14 day LBA through? Or do I have to go through the whole rigmarole?

 

Massive thanks for your help guys!

 

If it was 2008, I'd start with a new SOC as the interest will now be higher and this time refer to your previous claim and say something along the lines of

 

"In view of the fact that my previous claim appears to have been ignored I now give you seven days to refund these charges, failing which I shall put you on notice with a further 7 day letter before action"

 

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I've just received a letter today offering full and final settlement for the PPI, which is good news. However they have quoted a fee based on the interest on premiums based on the card rate which works out at just under £8. I had used the spreadsheet and had worked a interest fee out at just over £100.... The PPI here isn't a right lot, £70 worth.

 

Hi

 

Maybe it's me but I don't follow you.

 

What is the total amount they have offered?

 

What is the total amount you calculated was due?

 

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Hi

 

You have two choices.

 

1 - Accept

 

2 - Write back and say that you think they may have made an error in theor interest calculation as they only seem to be offering 8% interest and that they should also include contractual interest. Suggest that what they have offered is not in line with fos guidelines and you fell that they have made a mistake. Ask them to send you a revised offer when they have corrected their mistake. Then see what comes back.

 

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Hi

 

PPI claims are seperate from charges reclaims and dealt with differently. You should prepare two spreadsheets, one for each. Then check whether their ppi offer is in line with your ppi calcs. If it is then accept, if it isn't then dispute it with them.

 

With regard to the charges you would have to sue for these. You use S32(1)© Limitations Act 1980 to get over the time barred arguement. Case Law is Kleinwort Benson -v- Lincoln City Council.

 

Also on your spreadsheet you have used a date of 10/12/11....this should be a date in October?

 

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