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    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

      Please can you advise what I need to do today to get this done. 
       

      Many thanks 
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    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

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Hi,

 

As you may have guessed by my name, I work for a bank. Capital One to be exact. I'm in the same position as you, but with other banks. (it's gross misconduct if i got charges on my staff credit card).

 

the best way to get charges back is being nice. If you phone up shouting about the charges, you put the phones assocaites back up. So are far less likely to refund your charges.

 

Also don't say you didn't get your statement. Everyone says that! and after you've heard it for the 10th time, you get cynical and don't believe it.

 

Your best bet is to say 'i'm really sorry the payment was late. It'd really help me if you're able to refund this charge.' You'll then probably get 1/2 offered. Rather than getting irate, simply say 'are you sure you can't refund the full amount? If you can't do you have a manager available for me to speak to about this?'

 

Because of how much it costs us to transfer the call to a 'manager', you'll more than likely get the other half agreed. don't knock the India call centre either, they're 10x more likely to refund no questions asked.

 

if you don't want to speak to the india call centre, don't call before 7.30am and after 8pm. The UK staff are only available during these times (the perks of sending our jobs abroad)

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yes well i'll keep u updated on what we are told

 

Capital One have were told to say that we disagree with oft blah blah blah. Also told to remind people that they only disagree with amount charged not our right to charge fees blah blah.

 

We've not yet been told what to say now that the oft deadline of 31 May has passed.

 

with regards to all those that have expressed :mad: at the title of my thread - my advice was for those want one maybe two charges back. If you're asking for ££££'s there is only going to be one department in most banks that can make a decision, and that usually isn't someone you're going to be able to speak too.

 

If you want ££££'s refunding then using the letters from this sight would be your best bet. From what I know we do, the first letter gets £40 refund. The second letter gets between 25% - 50% of charges and then the third one usually gets the lot.

 

maybe worth trying to 'blag' that you're going to court and see if you can get away without doing so.

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There are no perks in getting your jobs sent abroad. Don't stick up for the Indian call centres. They are taking YOUR jobs. If the company feel that outsourcing offshore is working well, then it's probably only a matter of time before the rest of the call centre operation is off-shored as well.

 

Although customers might not think there isn't perks, there is. 'we' used to be 24/7 365 days a year based in UK including Christmas (people do phone in on Xmas day:o )

 

We use our India call centre to work nights/ bank hols/ Xmas and Easter. So we don't have to fight to get these off anymore.

 

I get your point about it all being shipped off, but i doubt that would happen. the india staff have degree and can only do the most basic work. the work that requires a bit of though is left for those in the UK and some of them have barely learnt to read&write.:)

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