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Can you describe the agreement - is it a 'reconstituted agreement' i.e. lots of terms and conditions or something else?

 

How old is the original card and when was the last payment to Citi? You said that you made payment in 2008 was this to 1st Crud?

 

I am also having problems with Citi but another DCA but there are a lot of people who have dealt with 1st Crud so don't worry.

 

I will post a SAR request that you can send to Citi but give me a minute.

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SAR Request

Subject access request letter attached to send with £10 postal order - send recorded delivery and sign over the dotted area at the bottom. They have 40 days to reply. They have 40 days to reply. Adapt the last paragraph to give any previous addresses that the OC may have and attach a copy of a utility bill or they will write back and ask for one.

The Data Controller

Citi Cards Services

CitiFinancial Europe plc

PO Box 49920

London

SE5 7ZF

General SAR template.doc

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I think I know what it is as I have got one. They show only name and address. Then the name of the lender then pages and pages of terms and conditions. One set is with the Associates or whatever they called themselves, I believe and the other bit is with Citi. They have obviously been recently reconstructed and printed out.

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Correct - I have received Naff all from Citi, not even the recon they sent HFO as they claim they can only supply this under a CCA request. They are unable to supply any letters they sent me as these are generated and not keep on file, they claim. I would suggest that you leave it as is and see what 1st crud do next - not much I suspect as there is too little documentation. There are a raft of complaint that could be lodged against Citi as they have not retained the correct data in any shape or fashion but the companies that bought into this are stuffed also.

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Standard threat, I would ignore to be honest. If you were to offer payment this would be on your terms not yours. If you do get a letter from the 'solicitor' you can send a more legal request under CPR again assling for documents.

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You should note that we do not routinely keep copies of all correspondence sent to customers because the majority of our letters are issued by our customer management system, and this does not maintain any records beyond the letter type and the date the letter was sent, and generally this information is only held for a two year period.

 

 

 

This is the killer in my opinion, it was in my SAR response also and should be the core of a complaint to the authoritities

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Check this out

 

Door step

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/content.php?441-If-you-do-receive-a-doorstep-visit-we-give-these-suggestions-to-Members

Report them to OFT as 1st Crud are under an official warning already

On the evidence provided they have no chance in court so are resorting to threats

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If the account is disputed - they should not be ringing or contacting you - report them to Consumer Direct (Trading Standards) and OFT. Do not ring them or provide a number. You could send them a quick reply saying that you are in receipt of their letter dated ..., as the account is in dispute you will only communicate with them in writing and will complain about their continued harassment to OFT and Trading Standards. Send recorded

 

Trading Standards via http://www.consumerdirect.gov.uk/contact

 

OFT http://www.oft.gov.uk/

 

 

OFT Guidance link

 

This helps when drafting a letter to OFT

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/content.php?416-The-OFT-Debt-collection-guidance

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