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    • And just to reiterate – I'm sorry if the message above sounds a bit harsh. We have to get the message out to other people who visit this thread as well. I realise that you are having a difficult time and we will do our best to help you, of course
    • The last photo shows the overflow carpark looking at the block which our room was located. When we got out of the car my partner thought that the building was for staff accommodation.  The unsecured bedroom window opened onto this car park.
    • Also I see that you are doing a lot of this on the telephone – and without any written confirmation. This is a big mistake. You need to start taking this matter seriously and so everything should go in writing. If you have telephone calls then they should normally be recorded. Read our customer services guide. You should make notes about every telephone call and then you should send an email to your telephone correspondence confirming what they have said or what they have agreed. It is important that you keep detailed paper trails here. Of course we may be jumping the gun and maybe big motoring world will step up to the mark – but I'm afraid that they have a lousy reputation has you have seen and so you need to start practising survival techniques and protecting yourself. You say for instance in your letter of rejection that the mechanic told you on the telephone that the gearbox needed replacing. Do you have any other evidence of this conversation? This is going to sound a bit harsh – but other people will be visiting this thread as well for their own purposes. You conducted their research about this company before you bought the vehicle. You now are fully aware that this is a company which can be very difficult to deal with and causes a lot of problems for many of their customers and yet you are still taking a telephone/verbal approach. Do I need to say any more? Also one of the documents you put up is an email exchange but it is not clear who is writing to who or what dates. If you showed this email to somebody in a pub they would be asking lots of questions about who sent the first message, who sent the second message, what dates were they sent et cetera. Please think about this before you post things. Please can you clarify the details of that email exchange. Please will you present the information carefully. We are all volunteers here and we have to rely on you to do the spadework
    • I told the DM that the room was not acceptable because of the reasons already mentioned. He informed me that they were full that night and that they could move me to the room next door (would not solve my problem with the rooms location). Told the DM that I could not stay in the room provided for the night so left no option but to leave. DM did not reply and I walked out.  
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      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

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    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

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Hey,

 

There was thread on here last week (a few years old I think) about the Train 4 Trade Skills (T4TS) scams. The thread has gone missing and it seems like its been deleted.

 

The URL was (I had it bookmarked):

 

ww w.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?225825-Train-4-Trade-Skills-problem

 

(If the thread hadn't disappeared, I would have had enough posts to post the url properly.)

 

Now it just leads to an error. Iv checked my post history and theres no mention of it and the link in my email also leads to nothing (I received the email a few days before I noticed the thread was gone. The email was just notifying me of a reply to the thread.

 

Iv sent an email to admin but no reply. I can only think it was deleted, but no idea why as T4TS wouldn't take them to court (they don't even take their non-paying students/customers to court).

 

Is it worthwhile me starting a new thread about it or could that also have the same fate?

 

Any help is appreciated thank you.

 

R.I.U.

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Same here, thanks for posting this random. I have quite a bit of the previous postings but I don't remember anything particularly controversial that would have led to deletion of the whole thread. I too have emailed admin for their comments. Hopefully they will reinstate it completely or edit the areas of issue. It was a very worthwhile thread and considering the fundamental purpose of these forums I would be surprised if it wasn't at least reinstated in part.

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on a lighter note though I got a letter from Hitachi today saying they had "sold" may agreement to CDF. I smell a win coming on lol

 

Naa, Hitachi proberly just don't want to deal with this so you just gotta deal with T4TS.

 

 

Had some debt company email,text, phone me then the threatning letter working on behalf of CDF ,i thought that these debt companies bought the debt and tried to get the money out of you.

 

Can't you get them done for harrasement? And don't worry about them, they need to go to court to do anything (like that will ever happen).

 

Never mind the letter got filed in the bin

 

Nice filing structure. :D

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Hello there.

 

Threads would only be unapproved if they breach the site rules, which usually means that the information posted is potentially libelous. I've not actually seen the thread that has been mentioned so I cannot comment on its content.

 

Best wishes,

 

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Hello there.

 

Threads would only be unapproved if they breach the site rules, which usually means that the information posted is potentially libelous. I've not actually seen the thread that has been mentioned so I cannot comment on its content.

 

Best wishes,

 

Seq.

 

while I appreciate you replying, I am ashamed that the forum deleted it. EVERY reply was from a personal view and helping give a balance of views (negative from us, positive from T4TS).

** MOD EDIT: Please avoid potentially libellous comments **

 

. Im out of their grip and hopefully I'v helped a couple more in the right direction, as well as the other regular posters. Thanks guys ;)

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im really disappointed that this thread has been taken down, im one of these mugs whos been taken for a ride by t4ts.

this thread was a useful insight to what a shoddy company they are.

im taking t4ts to small claims court as of thursday this week as i want my money back and was going to use this site as evidence as thats what others on this thread were leaving for each other was evidence.

so if anyone wants to contact me feel free. i will win this case not just for me but for others who have suffered just like me and hopefully get the ball rolling to get everyone thier money back..... luke

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best of luck fella, if there is anything you need feel free to ask, i've got plenty of letters from them along with copies of the questionable material. I'll also gladly make a statement concerning their "hard sell" tactics. im still dealing with the credit companies at the mo but when that runs dry i guess i'll be in your position so if you can win this then that will mean alot to my position

 

a user called mr_angry has a load of usefull bits as well, you might want to contact him and see if he will be happy to share

 

cheers

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im really disappointed that this thread has been taken down, im one of these mugs whos been taken for a ride by t4ts.

this thread was a useful insight to what a shoddy company they are.

im taking t4ts to small claims court as of thursday this week as i want my money back and was going to use this site as evidence as thats what others on this thread were leaving for each other was evidence.

so if anyone wants to contact me feel free. i will win this case not just for me but for others who have suffered just like me and hopefully get the ball rolling to get everyone thier money back..... luke

 

Good luck pal. If you need anything I posted, I'll be happy to email it to you. Just send me a PM. Don't know if it will be of use.... may help prove your paperwork isn't a 1 off or something. Please let us know how it goes.

 

So basically you have deemed the t4ts thread as libelous ,so you have deemed to be judge and jury , sad sad day for the just.

 

Its because their scared. Its a shame CAG couldn't grow a pair.

 

And someone please close the window, its cold and free speech has blown out the window, along with loads of helpful posts. :mad2:

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