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    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

      Please can you advise what I need to do today to get this done. 
       

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    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

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Most debt recovery companies ACTUALLY are very reasonable, they will freeze interest if not reduce it. Some do and some don't but most add fantasy charges of their own, most mention the word "client" in order to sound legally savvy and others imply that bailiffs will come around and remove goods... conveniently forgetting that they would need a CCJ first, which would need to be defaulted on.... :rolleyes: The reason companies refuse to reduce to freeze or reduce interest is when people send in financial statements and 'blag' it by over exaggerating their expenditure just so they do not have to re pay increased amounts to clear their debts. Is that so? Some DCAs must have a fine psychic ability then, since several that I know of added charges and interest before I had the chance to correspond back with an offer... We would all like to take a £8k loan and credit card, spend the money and pay £10 a month unfortuntely thats not the case. We would all actually like to be in a postion where we don't need the money in the first place... Most people I encounter are not bothered about defaults on theie credit file they just want to pay as little as possible. You're probably right, but I doubt it started off that way. When the loan/cc was applied for, most people make repayments on time, etc... it's ony when life goes t*ts up, that your scenario kicks in.

Another annoying thing is people seem to think if there is no credit agreement the debt does not stand... it stands but is unenforceable, which amounts to the same thing in my book...;) at the end of the days were all adults, you've borrowed the money, stop trying to 'wangle' your ways out of it and re pay what you owe as QUICKLY as possible. Why... when companies lke yours can't be *rsed to get the paperwork that goes with the purchase? That kind of stupidness is bad business, sorry.

 

Bank charges again, we ALL know if we go over the overdraft limit WE GET CHARGES its common knowledge MOST banks if its a genuine error or a first time they will refund you. Persistant offenders should not be allowed to CONSTANTLY get away with refunds. Just because "we all know" this and that doesn't make it right or fair. The charges are/have been wholly disproportionate and that's why CAG was born in the first place.

 

In term ive also been in financial difficulty and in fact prior to me starting work in debt recovery had the stereotypical view that all debt recovery agents are w****rs. At the baby-faced age of 27, you haven't even lived yet Honey! :D But from starting there and dealing with people who when your trying to help swear down the phone, dont listen to what you say, and are quite simply trying to scab any possible way to not pay what they owe. I'll have to take your word for that one.... but I've had a fair few agents in your line of work try and tell outright lies in order to get increased payments. They have also come across on a power trip and been incredibly rude.

 

I personally disagree with customers being patronised down the phone, swore at and even threatened, blinkered... there may be the odd case of being spoke to in a aggresive or over assertive manner but nothing as to some posts ive read. You're funny... :lol: TCF guidelines make sure of that. guidelines don't mean a jot.... take a closer look at the industry you're in... :cool:

 

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