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    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

      Please can you advise what I need to do today to get this done. 
       

      Many thanks 
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    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

      OT APPROVED, 365MC637, FAROOQ, EVRi, 12.07.23 (BRENT) - J v4.pdf
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First off, sorry your original post got missed.

 

I don't think you are being unreasonable at all and you have gone the right way about things.

 

Did you send your letter by recorded delivery and has it been signed for?

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You can check on line here - http://track.royalmail.com/portal/rm/track;jsessionid=CVXMJCEGZB4H4FB2IGJFFHQ;jsessionid=CVXMJCEGZB4H4FB2IGJFFHQ?catId=22700601&emt=emt&track=track&default=default&imageRootPath=&loc=en_GB&keyname=track_home&gear=track

 

Under the Sale of Goods Act, during the first six months, anything that is wrong with the car is assumed to have been there at the time of purchase, also during that first six months, it is up to the seller to show there was nothing wrong with the car and not for you to show there was.

 

If you want to continue with the rejection, then you do need to send another letter. The courts like to see that an attempt has been made to reach a satisfactory agreement before they are used.

 

The mention of his solicitor is probably just an attempt to make you think twice, but as we know, solicitors have no power.

 

The next letter you send should be headed 'Letter Before Action' and reiterate that they have had 3 attempts to repair the car and that you are rejecting it under the Sale of Goods Act 1979 (as amended), the 'as amended in brackets is part of the title, and the Sale and Supply of Goods Act 1982 as not of 'Satisfactory Quality' or 'Fit for Purpose'.

 

You should give him another 14 days (I know it's a pain in the butt all this time, but it's to show you have tried your best), and end the letter with 'No further correspondence will be entered into'.

 

At the end of the 14 days, you go here - https://www.moneyclaim.gov.uk/web/mcol/welcome and submit your claim. The fee could be £100 but you claim that back off the seller.

 

Most companies like this cave in as soon as they receive the summons.

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A bit more. TS will give you some advice over the phone, but wont intervene on your behalf, gone are the good ole days of your dads era of that sort of service. But you could give them a ring because you can then say in your letter, 'After talking to trading standards .....'.

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We now have the biggest problem of the whole saga though - I'm going to look silly when I go back and say "don't worry about the refund, it was just a balancing weight causing the problem"

 

You don't have to tell him what the problem was, just that you have had it fixed. You can tell him that you will be willing to accept the car if the alarm and boot lid are fixed. If he can't do it, then inform him that you will take it to the dealer and forward the bill to him for a refund.

 

You can also tell him that as the radiator is on it's last legs, which will be classed as fair wear and tear as it isn't leaking, that you would like him to supply you one at cost price so you can change it.

Don't take the loss of some of the heat exchange ribs lightly, it means the others aren't far off and neither are the circulation veins either.

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