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Just wrote a lengthy post only for it to disappear when I hit send:|

 

Was just curious about my neighbours BoS. It's a long story but I'm just going to ask about this one thing for now.

 

The lender has emailed her the 'registered' BoS as she requested. This is how it's made up:

 

Pages 1 + 2 - the original BoS as signed by her.

Page 3 - set out exactly like this:

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In the Supreme Court of England & Wales

Central office

Bill of Sales Registry

 

 

IN THE MATTER OF

A BILL OF SALE

BETWEEN

 

(her name)

and

AND (two 'ands' here!!)

 

(the lenders name)

------------------------------------------------------------

 

Page 4 consists of a hand written 4 digit number followed by the court stamp and a 6 digit number stamped to the left of the seal.

 

 

There is nothing else. The 6 digit number starts with 6 but the rest is unclear so she emailed them and asked them to clarify it - they say the number starts with a 0. And they also say that the 6 digit number is the registration number needed to check with the courts.

 

I'm sure the BoS images that I've seen have numbers with at least 10 digits but I could be wrong. I am positive though that the court document should be more extensive?

 

Could someone tell me if my instinct is right or wrong? Is this document genuine?

 

Thanks,

Dusty

I made a conscious decision to get out of debt:cool:. I will not be bullied or harrassed:mad: by DCA's or bailiffs whilst I try to satisfy my creditors.

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Hi Dusty Rug

 

Your friend may well have a Bill of Sale; what you need to be finding out is.... is it legal?

 

To find out if it is legal, you will need to write off to the High Court of Justice;

 

Room E17

Enforcement Officer

Royal Court of Justice

The Strand

London

WC2A 2LL

 

and say in your letter:

 

Dear Sirs

 

I write to request a copy of a Bill of Sale.

 

The parties to the Bill of Sale are:

 

Lender (input Lenders; name, address)

 

Borrower (input borrowers; name, address)

 

The Loan Reference No is: (input the Bill of Sale reference number - if you don't have it, ring the lender and ask for the Bill of Sale Ref No)

 

Would you also be good enough to advise if the Bill of Sale has been registered in time. If for any reason you deem that this is not the case, would you be kind enough to let me know if an application has been made to rectify the Bill.

 

I enclose the sum of £5.00 and look forward to your early reply.

 

Yours sincerely

 

 

(Sign it)

 

_____________________________________________________________

 

I hope this helps; you will also find a wealth of information on the forum if you need further assistance.

 

Apple : )

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