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    • Appreciate input Andy, updated: IN THE ******** County Court Claim No. [***] BETWEEN: LC Asset 2 S.A.R.L CLAIMANT AND [***] DEFENDANT ************ _________________________ ________ WITNESS STATEMENT OF [***] _________________________ ________ I, [***], being the Defendant in this case will state as follows;     I make this Witness Statement in support of my defence in this claim.   1. I understand that the claimant is an Assignee, a buyer of defunct or bad debts, which are bought on mass portfolios at a much-reduced cost to the amount claimed and which the original creditors have already written off as a capital loss and claimed against taxable income as confirmed in the claimant’s witness statement exhibit by way of the Deed of Assignment. As an assignee or creditor as defined in section 189 of the CCA this applies to this new requirement on assignment of rights. This means that when an assignee purchases debts (or otherwise acquires rights under a credit agreement) it also acquires certain obligations to the borrower including the duty to comply with CCA requirements (such as the rules on statements and notices and other post-contractual information). The assignee becomes the creditor under the agreement. This ensures that essential consumer protections under the CCA cannot be circumvented by assigning the debt to a third party. 2. The Claim relates to an alleged Credit Card agreement between the Defendant and Bank of Scotland plc. Save insofar of any admittance it is accepted that the Defendant has had contractual agreements with Bank of Scotland plc in the past, the Defendant is unaware as to what alleged debt the Claimant refers. The Defendant has not entered any contract with the Claimant. 3. The Defendant requested a copy of the CCA on the 24/12/2022 along with the standard fee of £1.00 postal order, to which the defendant received a reply from the Claimant dated 06/02/2023. To this date, the Claimant has failed to disclose a valid agreement and proof as per their claim that this is enforceable, that Default Notice and Notice of Assignment were sent to and received by the Defendant, on which their claim relies. The Claimant is put to strict proof to verify and confirm that the exhibit *** is a true copy of the agreement and are the true Terms and Conditions as issued at the time of inception of the online application and execution of the agreement. 4. Point 3 is noted. The Claimant pleads that a default notice has been served upon the defendant as evidenced by Exhibit [***]. The claimant is put to strict proof to verify the service of the above in accordance with s136 and s196 Law of Property Act 1925. 5. Point 6 is noted and disputed. 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Without the Claimant providing a valid true copy of the executed Credit agreement that complies with the CCA, the Claimant has no grounds on which to enforce this alleged debt. 11. The Claimant has been unjustly enriched at the expense of the Defendant by purchasing bulk debt at a greatly reduced cost and subrogating for the original creditor in trying to recuperate the full amount of the original debt 12. The Defendant was not given ample evidence to prove the debt and therefore was not required to enter settlement negotiations. Should the debt be proved in the future, the Defendant is willing to enter such negotiations with the Claimant. On receipt of this claim I could not recall the precise details of the agreement or any debt and sought clarity from the claimant by way of a Section 78 request. The Claimant failed to comply. I can only assume as this was due to the Claimant not having any enforceable documentation and issuing a claim in hope of an undefended default judgment.   Statement of Truth I, ********, the Defendant, believe the facts stated within this Witness Statement to be true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in it’s truth. Signed: _________________________ _______ Dated: _____________________
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i have started this thread maybe a little early as i am awaiting my complete set of statements but thought id be prepared as i am finding all this info a bit of a minefield and will probably need to ask lots of questions. unfortunately i have paid two separate lots of ten pounds as i didnt realise i could do two accs on the one letter. duh. at the moment i am paying roughly £98 per month on two accounts so expecting my claim will be quite large. wish i had known i could do this a while ago as i had a credit car with rbs. in total i had spent just over £800 but when they had added default charges the total was over £4,500. as it was mounting up i stuck me head in the sand and hoped for a miracle unfortunately all i got was a breakdown. my partner paid it off for me otherwise god only knows where i would be today. this all happened over five years ago so dont think i can do anything about it now however no bank will get away with it any longer with great sites like this one on the go. as soon as i get my statements through i will post here. please look in and keep me on the straight and narrow.

 

bos~ Data Protection Act sent

~ statements received

~ owed £1766.82

~ prelim letter sent 30/08/2006:grin:

 

bos Data Protection Act sent

~ statements received

~ owed £1217.86

~ prelim letter sent 30/08/2006:grin:

jules

bos~ Data Protection Act sent

~ statements received

~ owed £1766.82

~ prelim letter sent 30/08/2006:D

~lba handed in 14/09/2006

bos Data Protection Act sent

~ statements received

~ owed £1217.86

~ prelim letter sent 30/08/2006:D

~lba handed in 14/09/2006

court date issued of the 17th november

27th oct full offer totalling everything including 8% interest court costs and £10 dpa sar..... one down next to go.

 

rbs~ Data Protection Act sent off 21/09/2006:mad:

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ok got to the first hurdle now so wish me luck. im hoping they wont make this too hard as im still not sure what im doing however getting loads of help via chatroom so here goes

bos~ Data Protection Act sent

~ statements received

~ owed £1766.82

~ prelim letter sent 30/08/2006:D

~lba handed in 14/09/2006

bos Data Protection Act sent

~ statements received

~ owed £1217.86

~ prelim letter sent 30/08/2006:D

~lba handed in 14/09/2006

court date issued of the 17th november

27th oct full offer totalling everything including 8% interest court costs and £10 dpa sar..... one down next to go.

 

rbs~ Data Protection Act sent off 21/09/2006:mad:

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just discovered that the credit card was still being charged to my account in 2002 so am trying to get info from rbs on this. letter in tomorrow requesting data. took zoomans advice and paid a trip to local court for a while to see the set up cant reccommend this highly enough as it subdued the nerves and made me feel a little more confident. also decided to take my first approach letter to the bank in person. best sport ive had in a long time they ran round like headless chooks lol try it its fun for the boot to be on the other foot made them really squirm.

bos~ Data Protection Act sent

~ statements received

~ owed £1766.82

~ prelim letter sent 30/08/2006:D

~lba handed in 14/09/2006

bos Data Protection Act sent

~ statements received

~ owed £1217.86

~ prelim letter sent 30/08/2006:D

~lba handed in 14/09/2006

court date issued of the 17th november

27th oct full offer totalling everything including 8% interest court costs and £10 dpa sar..... one down next to go.

 

rbs~ Data Protection Act sent off 21/09/2006:mad:

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And don't worry about paying two lots of £10 SAR fees, you'll be getting them back in due time!! Are you claiming in Scotchland!? :)

BOS

Claim No.3 for £589.75+8%, Decree received, Sheriffs Officers instructed to serve a charge 21/4!

Claim No.4:- claiming £1507.00, Court Papers submitted 5/4 !

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glad im getting them all back however felt a bit silly admitting it as i had read through the faql quite a few times. never mind though lol maybe i should work in a bank where the policy seems to be to charge needlessly. i am putting these two cases through the scottish court system however i may do one of the others through the english system as the £750 limit makes things fiddly and then i can do a comparision between the two. might as well gain something out of this as knowledge as well as my money of course hehehe. actually quite looking forward to it. would be nice if i get this done in time for christmas. just one point.... i have no overdraft outstanding and ive paid everything off so if they close my accounts i have nothing to lose. am going through the process of finding out my credit score at the moment and if there is anything dodgy on it THEY had better watch out.

have spent quite a few hours in the chat room and the support is absolutely amazing. thanks guys i wouldnt have the confidence to do this on my own

bos~ Data Protection Act sent

~ statements received

~ owed £1766.82

~ prelim letter sent 30/08/2006:D

~lba handed in 14/09/2006

bos Data Protection Act sent

~ statements received

~ owed £1217.86

~ prelim letter sent 30/08/2006:D

~lba handed in 14/09/2006

court date issued of the 17th november

27th oct full offer totalling everything including 8% interest court costs and £10 dpa sar..... one down next to go.

 

rbs~ Data Protection Act sent off 21/09/2006:mad:

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ok well got my credit report back and lo and behold there is an entry on it fir a defaulted bos loan for £2452 which has an outstanding balance of £2452 from 2002....... surprised? well i bloody was . especialy as ive never had a loan with bos. so its off to the bank i go in the morning as apparently according to the amoeba i spoke to at bos telephone banking they cannot do anything computerised about this and it all has to be done manually????? not sure which disney book she got this info out of but will see what is said in morning..... WATCH THIS SPACE

bos~ Data Protection Act sent

~ statements received

~ owed £1766.82

~ prelim letter sent 30/08/2006:D

~lba handed in 14/09/2006

bos Data Protection Act sent

~ statements received

~ owed £1217.86

~ prelim letter sent 30/08/2006:D

~lba handed in 14/09/2006

court date issued of the 17th november

27th oct full offer totalling everything including 8% interest court costs and £10 dpa sar..... one down next to go.

 

rbs~ Data Protection Act sent off 21/09/2006:mad:

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ok just to update this thread i am now getting a bit worried as ive 7 days left before i file at court and i havent heard a single word from them....nope not one. popped in to see my bank manager who assured me the letters had been forwarded to the right dept and they would be in touch with me before the 19th. that was two days ago and still nothing. is this usual?

bos~ Data Protection Act sent

~ statements received

~ owed £1766.82

~ prelim letter sent 30/08/2006:D

~lba handed in 14/09/2006

bos Data Protection Act sent

~ statements received

~ owed £1217.86

~ prelim letter sent 30/08/2006:D

~lba handed in 14/09/2006

court date issued of the 17th november

27th oct full offer totalling everything including 8% interest court costs and £10 dpa sar..... one down next to go.

 

rbs~ Data Protection Act sent off 21/09/2006:mad:

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  • 2 weeks later...

update.

ok well today i filed at court and wanted to put these steps down, costs and time guides for others who are thinking of claiming so bear with me here as i go through it all.

step one..... requested my statements........done within the forty days

step two......prelim letter handed in on ........30/08/06

step three....lba handed in on ......................14/09/06

no communication from the bank other than to say it is being dealt with. oh yeah right so file it in the bin guys see if i care. ill see you in court. lol

step four.....court papers submitted on .........03/10/06

ok so costs well it was £10 for dpa sar

£39.00 court fee for summary cause..(this was advised by court instead of splitting claim so much and carries a limit of £1500.00 instead of the £750.00 for small claims it means i could be liable for costs upto £750.00 if and only if i lose which is highly unlikely and only then if the judge awards them costs against me again highly unlikely as i am taking this to court myself)

id just like to add here please if you have any queries ask your court as they are most helpfull and will do thier best to answer any questions you have they will also check your documents submitted if you ask them to. which im glad i did as the wrong form downloaded and it was almost the same as the one i should have used. they spotted it gave me the right form and waited until i had filled it in.

£15.00 to get sheriffs officers to serve papers this is the fee if they can do it by post so i asked which address was most likely to have someone who would sign for it and was told to send it to bos address at rosyth. if they cant do it this way it costs you a further £28.00 to serve personally. this has to be done by a solicitor or sheriffs officer.

this has to be better than doing it on the internet hehehe i havent enjoyed something so much for ages. anyway now just need to wait for the court to get in touch.

i hope some of you newbies find this informative as i realise there is a lot of information on this site for you to read through and not all of it is very clear. so im trying to set this out as simply as i can to give you a real idea of what you have to do and how much it will cost...(you just now, but ultimately the bank as you get these costs back)

if theere is anything i havent covered on here that you think would be good to include please let me know either on this thread or by pm

good luck to all who dare.

bos~ Data Protection Act sent

~ statements received

~ owed £1766.82

~ prelim letter sent 30/08/2006:D

~lba handed in 14/09/2006

bos Data Protection Act sent

~ statements received

~ owed £1217.86

~ prelim letter sent 30/08/2006:D

~lba handed in 14/09/2006

court date issued of the 17th november

27th oct full offer totalling everything including 8% interest court costs and £10 dpa sar..... one down next to go.

 

rbs~ Data Protection Act sent off 21/09/2006:mad:

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  • 4 weeks later...

ok my court date was allocated a week after filing. 17th november.

however this morning i received a full unconditional offer.

wooooooooohoooooooooo

iwon i won i won. lol

many many thanks to CAG my donation will be in on monday or tuesday when money clears into account.

bos~ Data Protection Act sent

~ statements received

~ owed £1766.82

~ prelim letter sent 30/08/2006:D

~lba handed in 14/09/2006

bos Data Protection Act sent

~ statements received

~ owed £1217.86

~ prelim letter sent 30/08/2006:D

~lba handed in 14/09/2006

court date issued of the 17th november

27th oct full offer totalling everything including 8% interest court costs and £10 dpa sar..... one down next to go.

 

rbs~ Data Protection Act sent off 21/09/2006:mad:

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Yey Congrats Smoo.

EnjoyXX

LIP

ABBEY

DPALetter received by bank on 100406.

£10 Cheque cashed by shABBEY on 200406.

14 statements received between 8-10 0506.

40 day limit reached on 19/5/06.

LBA sent special delivery on 20/5/06

7 days up on the 270506 for the LBA

Prelim approach for repayment for an estimated amt sent. 14 days up on the 200606.

DPAorder for NON-Compliance served 220606. Expires 060706

Final LBA sent, 14 days will be up on the 060706.

Defence from shABBEY received for DPANon compliance 050706

Financial claim deemed served to shABBEY on the 220706

AQ for DPANon Compliance handed in to court on 24706

Defence and 50% offer for Financial claim received 140806

AQ for Financial Claim received 170806

AQ for finacial claim handed in 010906

Hearing 4 amended claim 270906

Fast track Allocation 270906

Disclosure ordered 191006

shabbey failed to disclose 191006

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