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so you set up a DD for £1 a month to global.and you have not changed it to payment to lowell

 

they passed it to lowell.they did not tell you that they were selling on.

and lowell did not introduce themselves as the new owners and tell you to pay them direct

 

and LOWELL had the payments of jan/feb/march.so global are passing the money to lowell.

 

your DD has still gone out from april to aug and LOWELL claim that they have not had it since march.

 

something stinks here more than the usual stench that surrounds lowell.

 

can you answer these ?

 

lets get these cretins kicked back under their stone

 

SAM

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Hi Sam,

 

I have tipped your scales, Thanx so much, It helps just to have someone to talk to!

Practically everything you have quoted is correct,me knows them well:p

Global have been paid £1 per Month without fault (i still have the letter from Global dated 29/10/2002 asking for the token payment)

 

The last letter from Global stating "we stongly advise you to telephone IMMEDIATELY on receipt of this letter to discuss the repayment of this debt" ( I ignored it as i made a complaint to them in March about bullying tactics)so they bin it off on lowell

 

The 1st letter from Lowell was to state"What happened? our records show you agreed to pay but for some reason stopped" and they quoted a Direct Debit number that niether my bank nor I had any knowledge of.very crafty.you did not agree to make payment to them.the DD number was theirs,thats how thick they are.

 

Lowells statment shows £3 in payments for Jan,Feb and March so Global must have passed on some payments, just not all.lets make it the last money they get.

 

and yep my DD's have gone out each month without fault.

would cancel as soon as.

I hope this answers all the questions? if not please let me know.

and Thank you so much (again)

 

you want to close it down now.

 

either cca request to lowell.they will huff and puff,offer a reduced f&f,then eventually give up.a little bit longer in your case as you have been paying:mad:

 

or letter to lowell,that i can do for you.get them to back off or else.

 

pm me if you want.

 

SAM

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Hi Spitfire 650,

Thanks for your input I hope you're right, I ve been dealing with my debts for years now and would love to see the light at the end of the tunnel.(and the extra cash in my pocket)

 

Many Thanks

 

 

Sam,

Just a quick query for you, I have another account with global that i pay £10 per month ( I was bullied into this in March this year) can i change this back to the £1 if i send them an updated financial statement?

send cca request to them for this one.hopefully pay them nothing then if they do not obtain one.

if you can not afford £10.you tell them so.you pay what you can afford.and they have no rights to your financial situation:)

Cheers

Blue Boo

 

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Cheer Sam

Wiil Do, Much appreciated - and saves me the cost of recorded delivery.:)and half way to saving all your money that you wont be paying to them:D

Hope you've had a good weekend.

Blue Boo

 

SAM

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Sam- why all the secrecy with advice being given by PM?

not advice.it is personal info,to include in complaint letters.and general chit chat .nothing to do with lowell.

CAG works because info and advice is shared with all.

agree.but if i have helped with a personal letter of complaint about treatment .

 

 

op will not want personal feelings/treatment/etc put on over forum.

 

I do not want lowell trolls to see that it has not come from op,

 

I put any advice i can on the forum.but cant be expected to breach a confidence about personal issues.

 

and if i am asked in pm to help.what should i do say NO.

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hi.:)

 

I would give them the chance to respond to the letter first.

let them give you the answers we asked for,a explanation of your treatment etc /and the private details we included need answers.

also.

why they sold it to lowell when you were paying.

 

why they then stopped forwarding the payments on,and kept them their selves.

causing more stress,when lowell started on the why have you stopped paying threats.

 

and main answer being..what they intend to do now it has been returned to them.

 

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Ok, just an update here and the plot thickens, The 2nd account i had with Global was being paid every month for years. then out of the blue comes a letter from Lowell chasin for the same account and stateing that i had made payments to them and stopped. This was not the case so Sam 614 wrote a fantastic complaint letter for me to adapt a send to Global ( as we all suspected they had passed the account on and the payments) well today i got a reply to my complaint from Global. .........It states that Creation finance appointed them to collect on this account that they are nothing to do with the Lowell group and never have been, they have not passed this account to them nor my details and they can assure me that all payments made to them were sent to creation finance?????:confused:so creation ,not global.passed to lowell.do you want to ask them the same questions we asked global?

So now i am really confused. Lowells initial letter quotes creation finance but creation finance already have global paying them for this account?

Should i send the complaint letter to Creation Finance and a copy to Lowell? or what would be the best step to take? me thinks as above for creation.copy to lowell if you want,or forget these cretins,they have crawled back under their stone.Global have sent a form on how to complain to FOS which i will be doing!defo fill it in.

 

Any advice is welcomed:)

 

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gave up many a time b4.

just beat you noomill060,managed 6 weeks once.

 

determined this time.

as you know father in law died on 7th sept.terminal throat cancer.and even seeing what he was reduced too,did not even give me the push.

 

that push was 19th aug.had let daughter(aged 14) to see him for the last time before he was to ill.

and going to school next day she,as kids do informed me that the jeans on her bed needed washing for that night.

 

cut a long story short.no jeans just a letter for me,saying how much see loved me.and did not want to see me like grandad.

can't even find the words to discribe how i felt.

just came down stairs and binned the lot.

 

SAM

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