UKPC Parking Tickets X 3!! - Do I need to pay?

[fernandojordio]

Hi

 

I am newly registered so this is my first post........go easy on me!

 

Im in a spot of bother and im a bit confused what to do.

 

Basically, I have just returned from being on holiday to find 3(!!) UKPC parking tickets on my car to the cost of £170 EACH........so £520 total, or half the cost if I pay within 14 days!!! I am yet to receive the letter from UKPC but expect it to arrive next week.

 

The car was parked outside a friends house in north london for a week as he didnt think there were any parking restrictions in his area. The car was parked on a road (directly outside the friends house) with no yellow lines or anything, within a large residential estate, which you have to enter through a large gate. On further examination on my return from holiday there is a UKPC notice explaining that a permit is required to park ....but it clearly wasnt very obvious, as I didnt see it when entering the estate.

 

I had not left my carkeys with the friend, and therefore there was no way he could move the car when I received the first ticket. He did however leave a note on the car explaining that the car was parked with the permission of the houseowner and that it was not possible to move the car as I was out of the country until a few days later. However this did not help as I received 2 further tickets within the following couple of days.

 

Initially, my plan was to ring them and to agree to pay the first fine but appeal the following 2, as to me it appears that they are simply profiteering.......if i had been within the country then obviously i would have moved the car before receiving the 2nd two fines. But now having seen this site i am not sure what to do........i can see a lot of advice saying that not responding to the UKPC is the best option, but alot of this is in response to people parking on 'private' land like carparks etc - Is this still the same case for me on a residential estate?

 

Any advice would be hugely appreciated as if I have to pay the fines it would have doubled the price of my holiday!

 

Thanks so much.

S.

[robin9342]

The advice you have already read remains. Don't pay anything and ignore all correspondence. Private land is private land whether it is a car park or a private estate.

[crem]

Initially, my plan was to ring them and to agree to pay the first fine but appeal the following 2, as to me it appears that they are simply profiteering........

 

It's a good job you received another 2 INVOICES then after the first or you may have been tempted to pay it straight off.

 

Remember that private companies cannot FINE you so these are not PCN fines, simply invoices for parking that you didn't agree to pay.

 

The ignore route seems to be the favoured one generally. I am awaiting a letter to RK from a company who put an invoice on my car about 10 weeks ago so it can be a slow process it seems. Not sure if I am going to use the template letters or the ignore route myself yet.

[Al27]

Initially, my plan was to ring them and to agree to pay the first fine but appeal the following 2, as to me it appears that they are simply profiteering....

 

Of course they're profiteering! There is no 'appeals process'. Your 'fines' won't be cancelled, but then they don't need to be. They are unenforceable tosh.

 

You know the score - do not contact them and do not pay.

[fernandojordio]

thanks very much for the info.....thats a relief

 

just out of interest, if UKPC did attempt to take me to court to recover the money, would they have a leg to stand on?!

 

thanks again!!

[robin9342]

No. Simply put, no PPC has ever won a properly defended case. You have as much chance of winning the lottery as being taken to court.

[sameagle]

It would be interesting to know who gave them "permission" to operate on that Estate, or who's permission UKPC think that they have?

[lamma]

wait for the RK to get a letter (or three) from UKPC. they will have used form V888/2 and paid 2.50 per request made to the DVLA. Have a look at the V888/2 form on the DVLA website. you can and should request ALL the background evidence you are entitled to. This will include the Data Protection register entry number, the full postal address of the requestor (not just a post code), and evidence of the contract and so the name of the 'third party'.

[fernandojordio]

hi lamma - thanks for the info

 

just so im clear, why will i need this info? - is it likely to help if things get messy in the future?

 

thanks again!

[lamma]

it is so you can cause trouble for the PPC and the landowner/counterparty. no need to bend over and take it is there ?