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I am in UK.

I have just received a letter stating that there is a Charge on my Property.

What does this mean?

Does it mean that there can repossess and sell my house without my consent?

 

In my previous marriage, we took out several loans and when we separated/divorce, I took over all the loans.

I tried repaying the loan for nearly 10 years (small amounts) but due to harassment and work pressure, I become sick (depression) and resigned from my job.

 

Soon after that I stop paying in 99? 2000? - because I cannot afford to pay anymore.

I was out of work for nearly 2 years and with the help of some very good friends and family, I finally got back on my feet and starting doing odd and part-time jobs to make ends meet. I travel about and changed address a few times.

 

The debt companies must have been chasing me all along and till now I do not even know what I owe and to whom I owe this money to lest of all how much I owe.

 

Finally with the help of family (paid deposit etc) I bought a house.

I had to make myself strong and go work to make enough money just to pay the mortgage and survive/live.

 

The debt company traced me to this address and now have put a Charge on the Property.

What can I do or is there anything I can do?

Do I reply to them?

What do I say?

I am afraid they will repossess my house?

Can they do that?

 

Please help. Million thanks.

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Ok thanks all very very much

- this is the first time i have the courage to write and seek help and advise.

 

To my knowledge, I stopped paying end of 1999.

Because of my illness(depression, high stress, anxieties) I resigned from my job in 2000 or thereabout

- i cannot fully remember!!

 

Soon after, I was staying with friends all over UK and for this have reason I lost all correspondence/contact with any of the debtors for more than 2 years.

 

But i remember before that (in 1999/2000) i was so stress and fedup with the constant hassle that i just decided not to pay (and also I cannot afford to when I resign from my job). Stress, anxiety, depression simply means my head was not right then and I just simply stopped corresponding and paying.

 

I now live in a property (only managed to do so with help from brother) with him paying the deposit, legal fees etc. have been at this address for about 5-6 years on and off (moving about staying with friends for several months at a time for support). Mortgage repayment is kept up to date by my family etc. I keep plodding along as I manage to sleep little.

 

Before, some friends suggested to return the letters and state that I do not live at the address which is true as i got visit friends and stay for months there. The house is not left vacant as my nephews stays in the house when i am not there. Am i confusing? Sorry for being jumpy and all over the place.

 

I came back recently and found lots of letters from the debt agency and have not opened them - as said some got return and some just left unopened.

 

Now this Charge Order, I am afraid they will repossess my house - the debt is for unsecure loans taken in the early 90's.

 

Oh and I totally lost track on what letters I have sent back to left unopened

- do i open them even these are a while ago.

Writing this is stressing me now.

Will write more when my mind allows

- I think I am not putting the informations in a logical order

- sorry all.

 

Clearly it was not defended as I was not in a position to reply when i was away or if some of these letters has been send back to the DCA by my friends/family. They know my story and am just helping in any ways they can rightly or wrongly.

 

I am a responsible person and have continued to repay the debt for over 8-9 years albeit a small amount.

But the DCA constant harrassment and work pressure took the tolls and i was left sick with stress and depression

- that was when correspondence stopped in 2000 till now

 

- have not made payment and do not know what i owe and who i owe money to.

Bad Times! and Bad Memories ....

I am trying to remember as much as I can ....

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Surfaceagentx20 :) thanks

- alot of questions

- my mind went boom! reading your questions but i will try to answer them.

 

1. think the letter came from the land registry ..and i think my nephew send it back? after he told me that there was a letter from the land registry / think he scan through it and saw a charging order ? i could be wrong but this is what he told me.

 

2. Not sure since i do not have letter with me now

 

3. sorry not sure

 

4. not sure

 

5. not sure

 

6. not sure - no agreement at all as far as i am aware

 

7. i dunno charger - these letters are from DCA - last loans taken in 89-91

 

8. nothing paid since 2000 , last payment was in 99 just before suffered from depression and stress and resign from work.

 

9. nothing written and have not replied since 2000

 

10. no have live in UK - with friends all over UK few months at a time longest being about 8 months

 

11. in current address since 2001/2002? or there about

 

12.No,

 

13. i am not sure as i have been in and out and my mind is not always on the most alert pace each time but i get stress and phobias with these letters all the time.

Even talking here has taken me a long time to think and write :( I dare not even open these letters or my friends have sent some back) rightly or wrongly i have just been listening and just agreeing but i know i get tire and stress very fast so this is a huge step for me

- i am glad for whatever thoughts and help.

 

All i worry is they will come repossess my house and I hope it will not happen.

This is all I got.

Oh I have 2 kids (independent now almost, and it is hard enough being strong for them without them worrying about me

 

I wish I can continue to repay like i did before my depression but I just cannot and have no energy to talk with these DCA people because they are highly intimidating and unhelpful

- they increase my stress and I have nightmares

- sorry but i cannot help it!

 

I have some unopened letters

- do you suggest i brave myself to open them and post here?

I have seen them lying around.

Thanks all again for your time and patience and my apologies for the uncertainty in replies.

 

i cannot sleep

- i would like to repay my debt and can i sell the house now and repay whatever loans going

- i would not mind staying in a rented property or staying with my relatives

- would this be a good way forward

- please can I have your thoughts and is this a good way forward.

 

Now that a Charging Order has been placed in my property,

should i open the letters and write a S.A.R. now to request what exactly i owe and who i owe to ..

 

.i am so confused by all these ..

. I am seeing double ( due to my eyes short-sighted I think) because I cannot remember to know who and what I owe to when when i owe them ..

..getting more confused .

...help!

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Now that there is charge on my property

- does this mean they can now repossessed and sell off my house to repay the debt?

 

I would like to pay them off

- Can I put my property in the market.

 

There is some equity so can be use to repay the debt.

Please advised if this can be done and if so how?

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ok x20 will gather up letters and inform on content and await your help

 

gather mails together but finding it hard to open the letters, my hand is sweaty and shaky, my mind is just wandering all over the place - worried sick I guess.

 

found contact for local CAB

- they are close today but opens tomorrow

- Should i be going to see help with together with these letters?

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open one letter dated jan 2008

States:

our client - cabot Finance (Europe) ltd

a/c no - xxxxx

Clarity ref: - xxxxx

 

 

said reduce settlement offer repay about half , letters valid for 7 days - sign

collections manager

 

open no 2 letter dated feb 2008

from Red debt -

original creditor - barclaycard

they have appointed agent Lowell portfolio Ltd to recover, as you have failed to settle ...instructed to use a) Licensed Home Visit Agent' and b) start legal proceedings for CCJ and then charging order, use bailiffs to remove goods should debt remain unpaid

 

like you to contact and give opportunity of contacting and agreeing payment ..if not hear from you within 7 days then will use methods above

collection advisor

 

do i contact them or just wait now that a CCJ and a Charging Order has been made against me?

 

my hands are all wet and I am shaky whilst typing this in ..sorry ...and i am being tearful on this - will stop and open another letter soon ...thanks.

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Thanks for detailed instructions x20

- having to read many time to understand what I have to do

- I will open all remaining letters, post it here and see if i can locate what you ask

- IF I CANNOT LOCATE IT, THEN WHAT DO I DO?

 

opened letter 3 - march 2008 - red debt

creditor - barclaycard ( same as letter 4)

states - Pre Litigation Dept, Final Notice

..our agent failed to make contact and will instruct legal department to review your account

..may involve commencing legal proceedings -

1.instruct bailiff who may remove goods should debt not paid in full

2.deduct payments via attachment of earnings directly from employer

3.obtain a charge on your property

4.obtain payments directly from your bank account via third party order

5. requests attendance at court for examination of financial means

A final attempt to resolve this matter, you MUST act now .

 

opened letter 4- May 2008 - red debt

creditor- barclaycard

as you continued to persist with non-payment of debt..

.your account fast track to approved debt collection specialist who will contact you to negotiate a repayment plan

- we want to bring resolution as amicably as possible

 

opened letter 5 - Claim form

Northampton (CCBC) Claim no: xxxx date April 2008

claimant Lowell Portfolio will send this to you X20 in PM or do i post this one here?

 

Thanks Olive ..my hands are wet and shaky but i am opening the letters ...it hard but i can do it ...

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I have not managed to locate letter from land registry - my nephew has resent it back - sigh! what do i do now? if i do not even have this letter as you stated...

 

opened letter 6 - April 2008 Cope's

Registered county Court Judgement

Client - Arrow Global Ltd

debt value -xxxx

Claim ref - xxxx

copes ref - xxxx

 

write on behalf of client, failed to discharge our client's claims. have applied for CCJ to be registered against you and will remain on Public Register for a period of 6 years, if nothing received within 7 days, seek enforcement which may include one of the following-

1. insolvency Proceedings

2. Bailiff/Sherriff

3. Attachment of earnings

4. Charge on Property

5. third Party Debt Order

6. Injunction to Freeze Assets

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Olive, letter 6 was from DCA

 

Thanks surfaceagentx20

..for producing the Application Notice and Supporting Evidence (Part C) I will get it to the court tomorrow or Thursday

..need to find someone to take me there .

.there is a fees to Pay?

How much is it?

Does anyone know?

and I need to get this Application there in person?

 

Now I am re-reading the advice from X20 on the process

... I am highly grateful and at the same time heart is full of trepidation,

mind very tired but well worth it.

I will plod on positively with all your help and support.

 

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Yes have deleted x40 and thanks again for reaffirming. X20 ..

will do same and go to court tomorrow to hand forms.

 

One more question

- Do I have to prepare a defence when i attend court?

If need be, I am trying to do one now and would you, x20 and/or Olive be prepared to read through for me in PM

- tell me it is not necessary!

and I will just drop the 3 copies in tomorrow only ....

 

I am feeling very tire and I am sure X20 is feeling even more tire than I

...his help has been god sent and I would not have done this on my own at all

 

...thanks again and again for bringing me through x20,

 

Olive.Family and all in this forum.

I will report back after the hearing,

or if I receive any mails and further help needed

(which i will can now open without feeling fearful):)

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StayingCalm, many thanks I need every bit of support and luck - the help given by x20 ..words cannot express my thanks to him and all you people. So glad to found site but now I have another issue when I re-read opened letters. Another DCA has put a CCJ against me - what do I do now? Help please again, or do i put it in a new thread in the forum for help yet again ...and seek help there.

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I don't think I am entitled to any benefits since I did not apply for them.

I will get the money from my brother to pay for this fee.

 

Although I have been unwell, I have managed with lots of help from family, relatives and friends to see me through without resorting to benefits, doing odds jobs etc- not sure why I did not apply for benefits since i have been paying tax for over 20 years of working.

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reading this too .. I am beginning to understand a little more each time when i read/reread again ..

.it will sink in at some stage

..although I am darn tired,

 

I have found another of the letter that I opened earlier and when i re-read through them.

 

This one is from Cope's stating that there is a Claim made by Arrow Global ltd and have a Registered CCJ against me.

Like the others, I have not make any repayment or communications since 2000.

Is this Statute barred?

and if so what can be done with them registering a CCJ against me now.

 

All their correspondence started in early 2008

- have posted a PM to x20 to see if he can help in this matter now.

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yes indeed you are right there x20 and thanks for the reminder. I will start new thread - titled Registered County Court Judgement

 

x20 hello

read through Form N244 sa in form?w a small error under claimant and reference - made correction by using tippex - claimant reference should read xxxxx and not xxxxxxxx. Hope it is alright to use tippex to cancel the 3.

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You mentioned I can use the same line i.e. N244 form for my CCJ case with a little modification -

what might this modifications be if I may ask, please?

 

x20, Olive

Handed in papers to court - they will write to confirm date for Hearing - it was hard but I did manage to get it in.

NOW What? and How? do I plan for this Hearing? Like what do I say? Anyone had experience of this who can share with me the process ....Step by Step Guided Experience ....I need it badly! Truly appreciate if anyone can help ....Thanks very much!

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Olive yes thanks and will let you know date of hearing when they write to me.

I will need all the support.

I will PM you then.

 

X20 - When I deliver the papers this afternoon, it was at General Enquiries

- a General Clerk attended to me (I did mentioned if I could have the hearing before the Charging Order and that I am putting the application to set the judgement aside

- BUT the clerk said to me that the papers will be given to the Judge this afternoon.

 

The Judge will then decide what to do with it and will write to me with the date of the hearing.

So, I did not managed to get the confirmation as you suggested

- Now I will just wait for the letter from the court to come.

 

I am getting really worried about attending the hearing at court

- not knowing what to say and how to answer etc

...any help here?

 

How does it get started and will they question me and if so what might some of these questions be .

...all uncertainty is getting stressful

....sorry for feeling so .

.hope it is irrational fear!

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x20 thanks :) the General Clerk did not let me know; said she will give the N244 to the judge that afternoon

- although i did ask if it can be heard the same day but the General Clerk said she could not tell me at this stage except the Judge - sigh!

Can I call them and ask again or wait for the letter to come within the next few days?

 

thanks and thanks very much .

..i did sleep for about 5 hours today and i guess it is good to do that

...you mention what to say and why?

 

what do I say and why?

if i do not know what's coming around the corner - sigh!

 

I am glad to know that it will be a room and hope I can come out in one piece

- mindset tells me differently

- too many stories and televisions ..

..sigh!

 

x20, Pete, Olive and all :)

 

Just to let you all know that for all the others DCA's (read though letters from them again and again and found 4 in total with 10 lettters written (1CCA and 1 Statute Barred) of each written to (DCA, Appointed Solicitors, other DCA's).

 

I have managed with good help to get (letter M and N) prepared and will try to send them out today with the £1 postal order for the CCA

- thread on 'Registered County Court Judgement'.

 

One question - since I have not had an reply yet, I will ask here for help too

- Do I have to write on the postal order and what is it that i write?

 

Thanks again.

 

On the POSTAL ORDER Issue - still no reply from anyone yet! sorry for pestering again - HELP if you are around!

 

DO I hand write the names of the DCA or appointed solicitors on the postal order?

Is this alright to do so?

UNSURE and NEED ADVISE PLEASE

- I like to go out this afternoon and post these letters if possible.

 

And Do I need to take a photocopy of these postal order too?

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postggj - thanks. I have bought the postal order and I will have to write the DCA i.e. Hamptons Legal, Red Debt Collection Services, Lowell portfolio I Ltd and so on. I am assuming this is right and I will also crossed the postal order too.

 

YES I will give the court a call tomorrow afternoon if I do not receive any letter from the court and will ask as stated.

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big breadth .... I have slept for a good number of hours for the weekend ..for the first time .. I am able to walk alone and think a little straighter ....mostly being a little happier ..thanks ...I have not heard from the court as to whether they will let me have the Application Notice Hearing first before the Charging Order Hearing - tomorrow is Bank Holiday and I think the court is shut? so I will call Tuesday and hope it is not too late - sigh!

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Thanks debbbbsy for the reassurance and will focus on the set a side. I need every reassurance and support as this has happened so fast ...i am still getting my mind to accept it fully .... I am feeling ok'ish and will fight this through and I am sure I will come out alright in the end ..whatever the end maybe.

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x20, Olive and everyone :) hello to you all

Today I call the court and they inform me that they have adjourned the Charging Order Hearing till next month - this is to allow each side to PREPARE??? for the case - they also told me that the Set Aside Hearing will be heard first and then the Charging Order Hearing - this I assume is good, as has been advised by x 20 to make sure that I get the Set Aside first. Now What? Do I wait or do I need to consider and prepare anything?.

 

I have written letter M and N to the DCA's and it should be with them by now. Question?I wait for the 12 days and then what?

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ok x 20, I will post as soon as I hear from the opposition. May I ask what are the some of these written evidence they can come out with? some examples maybe from previous experiences if any!! I am getting excited and also feeling rather nervous with the developments to date - BUT I know I am doing things now with good help and support and I am telling myself to be brave and do this to get me back to the ground and off my feet once again.

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I really could not remember the time

- I can remember i suffered from stress and depression from work around 97 until 2000/01?

when i finally had to resign from work.

 

I had treatment and been to my doctors on many occassion …

.sick notes, anti-depression prescriptions and now still suffers from stress and depressive symptoms.

 

That was the toughest and hardest period of my life ..

and me going round to live with different family members,

friends was life support then

 

..in addition to the family taking me back to my home country to take me away from these stresses which they felt was not doing me any good.

 

Since I was not working and suffering from depression, repaying debts was last of my issues.

 

I know these debts was from around 88-91,

and following my separation/divorce I took over all debts and repay small amounts from 92 until 2001 or so

..I cannot find any information to verify this though.

 

So, I cannot remember when I last made payment but i think I stopped since suffering from depression and soon after I resigned from work 2000? or 2002?

 

They can write to my doctors and they will have this record.

I don't even know these exact dates because i cannot recall at all!!!!.

 

So I hope the debt is statute barred. I shall wait for their response on the letter M & N and post these on for all to see and advise me on what to do next.

 

I am now building my courage to pay and locate the other CCJ (which I do not know where it is from) for the moment. I would like to send a N244 at some stage.

 

I will post when I receive anything from the court ...thanks and thanks.

 

I am going to have a good rest this weekend and just go for walks and walks ....to lighten things up ...thanks for all the help

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