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    • Not at all.  The onus is on them to ensure that their invoice respects the provisions of Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 to establish keeper liability.  Which it can't as the area is covered by bye-laws. Spot on. Irrelevant as to whether you entered into a contract with VCS to pay them £100 if you didn't obey what was written on their silly signs. Who cares?  What about their ridiculous generic Particulars of Claim where they deliberately mix up driver and keeper. And where do they mention this?  You haven't shown us anything. Of course you have to prepare a Witness Statement and you'd better get on with it. This is the problem here - you've disappeared for months & months, haven't kept us updated and presumably haven't read other VCS threads.  That needs to change - now. Otherwise you will lose - simple as that. For a start - please upload the court order which fixes the hearing date plus plus where "VCS mentioned my initial defence was generic and clearly copied from the internet".  We're not mind readers.
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    • Hi,  It has been a long time but I have had confirmation claim will proceed to hearing in roughly 1 months time.  I was wondering if anyone could advise on defence please.  A few questions I have are: 1) I didn't notify VCS that I was not the driver of the vehicle and the judge may look negatively on this point.  I did not receive any direction in correspondence from VCS  that I should inform them if I was not the driver and that was going to be the foundation for may argument on this point. 2) The vehicle is stopped at a zebra crossing.  Based on the images from VCS for around 10 seconds.  At that time there is someone standing near the zebra crossing and someone else enters my vehicle.  I was going to raise the point that stopping at a zebra crossing when someone is standing near it is to be expected.  I was also going to ask the question how you can have a no stopping zone when there are zebra crossings where the driver is required to stop. 3) The no stopping zone is clearly signposted, however, no drop off or pickup is not clearly signposted with one small sign at the zebra crossing, parallel to the road and on the passengers side.  I was going to challenge that no-drop off or pickup is clearly signposted.  4) VCS mentioned my initial defence was generic and clearly copied from the internet.  It covered 1) Claimant not being in a position to state if the Defendant was the driver at the time.  2) No evidence that claimant's contract with landowner supersedes byelaws & signage isn't legally binding contract. 3) No contractual costs and interest cannot be accrued on speculative charge. I am interested to know if anyone has had success or been unsuccessful with this 'generic' defence. 5) If I should submit an updated defence to the court based on questions 1, 2 & 3.  Or if it is better to only raise these points in court? Thanks.  Any guidance would be appreciated  
    • I honestly don't know, Baz. In addition what I don't  understand (from that pamphlet) is this: The s88 criteria are quite clear and don't need a medical professional to interpret them . The one most relevant to his topic says that an application is not a "qualifying application" if a relevant disability has been declared. The problem with the word "may" is how does the applicant establish whether me "may" driver under s88 when he has not complied with its conditions? I don't know the answer to that either. But to further muddy the waters, the pamphlet says this (about : But the s88 statute says absolutely nothing like that at all. It simply says that if you have declared a relevant disability s88 does not apply. The DVLA pamphlet is simply confusing as far as I can see. That's actually my opinion and that's what I would stick to if it was me making the application. But I'll seek a few opinions from others over the next couple of days.
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As well as going after HSBC, have decided to get my money back off these (edit) too. Have always accepted bank charges as an occupational hazard of working away from home for long periods of time and not being able to check my statements.

 

However got home on Friday, the countrys most recommended bank (where they get that from I don't know, wouldn't recommend em to my worst enemy) had charged me 55 last month for going £5 over my overdraft limit. After my wife had scraped me off the ceiling, have decided to go after them. Sent the data protection letter off yesterday.

 

Fingers crossed for a swift return of my money.

 

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[CENTER][SIZE=4][COLOR=sandybrown]Noli Illigitimi Carborundum[/COLOR][/SIZE][/CENTER] [LEFT][SIZE=1][COLOR=red]First Direct:[/COLOR][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=1][COLOR=black]Data Protection Letter Sent - [/COLOR][COLOR=blue]8[/COLOR][COLOR=blue] July 2006[/COLOR][/SIZE][/LEFT] [SIZE=1]Reply received [COLOR=blue]- 12 July 2006[/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=1][COLOR=black]Statements received First Direct Owe me [/COLOR][COLOR=red]£175[/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=1][COLOR=#ff0000][/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=1][COLOR=#ff0000][/COLOR][/SIZE] [LEFT][SIZE=1][COLOR=red]HSBC[/COLOR][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=1][COLOR=black]Data Protection Letter Sent - [/COLOR][COLOR=blue]8 July 2006[/COLOR][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=1][COLOR=black]Reply Received [/COLOR][COLOR=blue]- 14 July 2006[/COLOR][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=1][COLOR=black]Statements received HSBC owe me [COLOR=red]£1350!![/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=1]1st Request for repayment sent - [COLOR=blue]5 August 2006[/COLOR][/SIZE][/LEFT]

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First direct win the prize for the first bank to reply, and for also sending me back my £10 cheque. (They waived the charge bless them!!) They are sending all my statements by courier along with a list of manual interventions. Bet they don't include the costs of said interventions!!

[CENTER][SIZE=4][COLOR=sandybrown]Noli Illigitimi Carborundum[/COLOR][/SIZE][/CENTER] [LEFT][SIZE=1][COLOR=red]First Direct:[/COLOR][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=1][COLOR=black]Data Protection Letter Sent - [/COLOR][COLOR=blue]8[/COLOR][COLOR=blue] July 2006[/COLOR][/SIZE][/LEFT] [SIZE=1]Reply received [COLOR=blue]- 12 July 2006[/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=1][COLOR=black]Statements received First Direct Owe me [/COLOR][COLOR=red]£175[/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=1][COLOR=#ff0000][/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=1][COLOR=#ff0000][/COLOR][/SIZE] [LEFT][SIZE=1][COLOR=red]HSBC[/COLOR][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=1][COLOR=black]Data Protection Letter Sent - [/COLOR][COLOR=blue]8 July 2006[/COLOR][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=1][COLOR=black]Reply Received [/COLOR][COLOR=blue]- 14 July 2006[/COLOR][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=1][COLOR=black]Statements received HSBC owe me [COLOR=red]£1350!![/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=1]1st Request for repayment sent - [COLOR=blue]5 August 2006[/COLOR][/SIZE][/LEFT]

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Keep us posted, "Noli Illigitimi Carborundum" indeed! :-)

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First Direct Unlawful Bank Charges: Settled in Full 12/05/06 | £2235.50

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Still waiting for statements supposedly sent by courier about 10 days ago!

[CENTER][SIZE=4][COLOR=sandybrown]Noli Illigitimi Carborundum[/COLOR][/SIZE][/CENTER] [LEFT][SIZE=1][COLOR=red]First Direct:[/COLOR][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=1][COLOR=black]Data Protection Letter Sent - [/COLOR][COLOR=blue]8[/COLOR][COLOR=blue] July 2006[/COLOR][/SIZE][/LEFT] [SIZE=1]Reply received [COLOR=blue]- 12 July 2006[/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=1][COLOR=black]Statements received First Direct Owe me [/COLOR][COLOR=red]£175[/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=1][COLOR=#ff0000][/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=1][COLOR=#ff0000][/COLOR][/SIZE] [LEFT][SIZE=1][COLOR=red]HSBC[/COLOR][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=1][COLOR=black]Data Protection Letter Sent - [/COLOR][COLOR=blue]8 July 2006[/COLOR][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=1][COLOR=black]Reply Received [/COLOR][COLOR=blue]- 14 July 2006[/COLOR][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=1][COLOR=black]Statements received HSBC owe me [COLOR=red]£1350!![/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=1]1st Request for repayment sent - [COLOR=blue]5 August 2006[/COLOR][/SIZE][/LEFT]

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Had Statements back, they owe me £175...... small amount but I only had the account active with them for about 14 months!!! Sending the letter on Monday!

[CENTER][SIZE=4][COLOR=sandybrown]Noli Illigitimi Carborundum[/COLOR][/SIZE][/CENTER] [LEFT][SIZE=1][COLOR=red]First Direct:[/COLOR][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=1][COLOR=black]Data Protection Letter Sent - [/COLOR][COLOR=blue]8[/COLOR][COLOR=blue] July 2006[/COLOR][/SIZE][/LEFT] [SIZE=1]Reply received [COLOR=blue]- 12 July 2006[/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=1][COLOR=black]Statements received First Direct Owe me [/COLOR][COLOR=red]£175[/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=1][COLOR=#ff0000][/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=1][COLOR=#ff0000][/COLOR][/SIZE] [LEFT][SIZE=1][COLOR=red]HSBC[/COLOR][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=1][COLOR=black]Data Protection Letter Sent - [/COLOR][COLOR=blue]8 July 2006[/COLOR][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=1][COLOR=black]Reply Received [/COLOR][COLOR=blue]- 14 July 2006[/COLOR][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=1][COLOR=black]Statements received HSBC owe me [COLOR=red]£1350!![/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=1]1st Request for repayment sent - [COLOR=blue]5 August 2006[/COLOR][/SIZE][/LEFT]

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