Welcome Ricky...

Also, ignore my last post. The streetview date was 2020. Signage has changed on the latest 2023 views. https://www.google.com/maps/@50.8312597,-0.2355833,3a,15.8y,88h,89.67t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sp0Zw6koxjallpnscvYcy_w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu BUT!.. Have a good look around to see if any of the old signage is still there. (Or, indeed ANY conflicting signage).

Well done Intrepid. Your detailed synopsis of the hearing will help with clarification on a number of things.

Hi Whirlwind, So, I believe that makes you a "customer"... A quick look around Google streetview has brought up what I think is your "get out of jail free" card. https://www.google.com/maps/@50.8312597,-0.235747,3a,30.3y,289.78h,86.16t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0_cDvYgf5eH99WfkLmHiQA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu When you go back to take pics, just make sure this sign (and any like it) are still there.

I can see this situation creating problems with the public. I, for one would resist in the strongest way possible to being "arrested" by someone who just appears to be a bailiff.

Looks OK to me.

Yes LFI, the exact wording on the "contract" is: Parking Charge Notices may be issued for all or any of the reasons below: Parking without a valid permit of authority Parking out of a marked bay Parking in a disabled bay without a valid disability badge on display Parking on yellow lines/hatched areas Parking and leaving site Overstaying a defined time limit Absolutely no mention of EV charging bays.

Well, it looks like this should make for a good defensive witness statement when we get there... There's a good case for confusing signage, both CEL and UKCPS. Looking on Google spyview, the retail park entrance signage to the says that "UKCPS manage and control this site". (No if's or but's... CEL). https://www.google.com/maps/@53.574939,-0.0981834,3a,15y,152.65h,87.63t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sKdWzYNzQJ2nXsFcL5qQksA!2e0!5s20230601T000000!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu On entering the KFC area, the only obvious entrance signage still appears to be UKCPS, (on the right). There is another sign on the side of the building , but this is far from obvious, being a good 12 to 15ft away from the other side of the road and next to the drive thru exit. https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5742332,-0.0977961,3a,70.5y,29.41h,89.19t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1saJFmzq9nfsAUqZu2Jbq0Vw!2e0!5s20220701T000000!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu The signs scattered around inside the car park suddenly start showing different information. Can't get close enough to read any, but assume it will be CEL signage.

And, of course you can keep writing to PE. No point at all in writing to a toothless DCA.

Must be leading right now but there's a long time to go...

Nice one! Just giving them a couple of clues that you know what you're doing and being facetious along with it.

If you write a letter, post it up here for the team to review and make any suggestions. Put that in your letter. Also, you didn't really make it clear... Did they allow you to pay for your shopping, or just confiscate it? Did they give you any paperwork to take away?

Op has reacted to my last post... 'Nuff said!

Quaker, Have you been and downloaded their photographoic evidence? Upload please...

Dave, The PCN is now redacted and uploaded to post 3. Yes, the dates are accurate, but it's a bit academic as MET have not tried to invoke POFA at all. (They obviously know that it's covered by airport bye-laws). So they're definitely stuck with chasing only the driver. Yay!

Dave, You. Got. Speech. Im ped iment?

Looks like mediation again, with the usual outcome...

Looks like the mediation might well have happened jk, with the usual outcome

Are you able to get some good (readable) photos of the signage? (Including the signage and system to enter details inside). Also, is this a new parking scheme?

Just click on > SAR < to read about it.

Yes Homer, We finally sussed that on other threads. So they are now stuck with identifying the driver... Fat chance!

As I understand it a chargeback is a right. The bank shouldn't need to "review" anything. You should get back to your bank and demand it. Tagging @dx100uk for advice...

Intrepid, Just a suggestion on something else to throw in. As the claim appears to be based upon "the use or enjoyment of land" as per https://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/procedure-rules/civil/rules/part16/pd_part16 Other matters to be included in particulars of claim 7.1 Where a claim is made for an injunction or declaration relating to any land or the possession, occupation, use or enjoyment of any land the particulars of claim must – (1) state whether or not the injunction or declaration relates to residential premises, and (2) identify the land (using a plan where necessary). 7.3 Where a claim is based upon a written agreement: (1) a copy of the contract or documents constituting the agreement should be attached to or served with the particulars of claim and the original(s) should be available at the hearing, and (2) any general conditions of sale incorporated in the contract should also be attached (but where the contract is or the documents constituting the agreement are bulky this practice direction is complied with by attaching or serving only the relevant parts of the contract or documents). (And the potentially significant one)... 7.5 Where a claim is based upon an agreement by conduct, the particulars of claim must specify the conduct relied on and state by whom, when and where the acts constituting the conduct were done. As far as I can see, their POC is deficient in respect of the above. If it's not mentioned in their POC's, thet can't rely on it in their WS!

Just post up what you propose to send to 'Bucks first, so the team can have a quick look.

Yes dx, you're right. New pic attached. You can also now see the camera. (Taken from the road rather than the older Google pic in the car park). What a ridiculous situation! As Dave said, it's not really clear whether yellow hashes are required on both sides of a space, but common sense dictates that they should be on both sides. If not, it means that you must park forwards or backwards, depending on markings... But, if you need to access the boot for a wheelchair, you have to pull in forwards to use the hatched area at the rear. Also, what if driver and passenger are disabled? Bay Pic.pdf