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Do you think ti would be worth maybe giving them a ring and trying to settle it over the telephone ?
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I have said so far that i know i was in the wrong etc , i know how much fair evasion costs transport companies and i respect the current legislations that are in place and i have apologised for my actions and said it would not happen again and that i am willing to pay any cost that they deem fit to avoid a criminal record as it would affect my future employment as i am currently studying an engineering course . Has anyone else got any ideas on what i could say to persuade them for an out of court settlement Thanks once again in advance
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Hi there i have recieved my second response from TIL , not good news they said they see no reason why they should not proceed with court action and a summons will be issued soon. Any one got any advice on what to do next .. Or should i just take this one on the chin and wait for a court date many thanks in advance Shaun
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Thank you HB
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Thank you HB , never will i make this mistake again , So stressed.
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The solicitor seemed confident but the fee was just way to expensive considering my financial situation.
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Thank you for that BazzaS , really appreciate it. Just spoke to a solicitor but he is requesting £1800 to help me not get a criminal record , but that is a fee that is not just possible. See how they respond to my second letter and ill go from there.
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Thank you very much HB
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Thank you honeybee for the advice , i really hope they go for out of court settlement. Do you have any idea on how much the fine could be around roughly if it was to go to court?
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Hi just a quick question , i am about to send my second response to TIL , do you think it would be worth giving them a call and trying to reach an out of court settlement over the telephone. I am worried sick about this going to court.
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Thank you i shall let you know how i get off .
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Thanks everybody for the help and advice , im going to write my second letter today and get it sent off. I was clearly in the wrong and it was just a stupid moment of madness. Only thing i am worried about is how much the fine is going to be if they do not agree to a out of court settlement , i am unemployed at the moment and anything in the region of £500 plus would be very difficult to pay.
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What £500 even though i am a unemployed student ? In my second letter should i offer a amount as an out of court settlement?
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I thought i grovelled pretty well in my previous response to them. Any tips on how i should reply this time ? I am a student at the moment and would struggle to pay a hefty fine , what would be the outcome of i do go to court? This is my first offense in regards to any transport issue
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Hi everybody , i have had a response from Transport Investigations please find the letter attached i have taken a picture. Iit looks like they will take me to court for the incident , i know every case is different but does anyone know what the outcomes are when you go to court ? Like how much the fine is etc? In slight panic mode at the moment , i am not to sure but can anyone tell me what act they intend to prosecute me under , should i write back to them and ask them to consider my case again ? I have been caught bang to rights so not sure if it is worth it . arriva response.pdf
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It was a silly mistake and plain stupidity.I basically tried to say i got off at Bridgend so that I could have a cheaper train fare.I don't regularly make this journey as it was a one off.Thanks for the advice , How do you think i should apply that within the letter ?
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Hi there everybody . Below is the letter i am going to send to TIL .. is this okay . Thanks Dear Sir/Madam TIL Reference: TIL : ,,,,,, I am writing to you in response to your letter regarding the incident that occurred on 01/07/2016 in connection to a journey that was made between Llansamlet and Cardiff Central for which unfortunately I had not shown a valid ticket. I would firstly like to profusely apologise for my actions, which I deeply regret, I had not previously planned to travel without a ticket and this was an embarrassing mistake that I had not indented on making. My decision was extremely foolish and disrespectful to current legislation and my behaviour was out of character, as I believe myself to be a hard working and responsible young man who holds respect for regulations. I have travelled regularly by train for many years and have never disregarded regulations in the past and I do not intend to repeat the foolish mistake of doing so in the future. I would like to apologise for my offence and kindly ask you to consider reviewing my case, I have thoroughly read the information you have provided in relation to my responsibilities when I travel by rail and important information regarding National Railways Byelaws (2005) and the regulation of railways act (1989). I am an upstanding and respectful member of my community and I did not intend on causing an offence, I deeply regret my behaviour and actions I would like to again apologise for this and ask you to consider my sincere apology. Yours Sincerely Mr Shaun William Artis
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Hi there , this is what the letter states ... The report of this incident indicates that sufficient evidence does exist to warrant a prosecution in accordance with the current legislation. This file is presently with our prosecutions team who are considering whether to issue a summons for the inclusion in forthcoming Magistrates Courts list. These considerations may include whether any charge should allege an offence against Railyway Byelaws (2005) or , The Regulation of Railways Act 1889. In any successful prosecution, we will ask the Magistrates to award the costs and compensation in favour of the rail company. This will be in addition to any fine that the Magistrates seek to impose. If I do not receive any written representation from you within 21 days of the date of this letter , a Summons to a magistrates court hearing may be issued without further notice to you. Does anyone know which is the best way to reply to this letter ? I know i deliberately avoided paying the full train fare by stating i came from a shorter stop . I did admit to the investigating officer that i was silly and i also did offer to pay the full fare at the time . If this does go to court what would the outcome be anyone have an idea ?
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Hi everybody . I have had my letter from TIL . They have stated in the letter that there is sufficient evidence to prosecute either under the railway bylaws 2005 or the regulation of railways act 1889 . After reading through the letters my offence comes under the regulation of railways act , it even says a term of imprisonment and that is something that I don't want . This is the first time I have ever done anything like this what could be the possible outcome of all this , i did try and pay a shorter fare it was just a complete moment of madness that i regret , can anyone help me with a response please as I am going into slight panic here !!
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Hi there , where would i find the link ?
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Hi there , yesterday on the 1/07/2016 , i boarded a train from llansamlet to Cardiff , there was no conductor on the train , as I arrived in Cardiff I had to go to the unpaid fair's desk , as I was there about to buy my ticket I had a stupid moment of madness and told the guy at the ticket office that I boarded on Bridgend but he caught me out by saying that there were ticket tolls at Bridgend and I completely froze , I then got taken by a transport investigations officer she gave me a quick interview and asked me questions in regards to what just happened , I told her I was sorry and that it was a stupid thing to do and I even offered to pay for the fair there and then but she said no because the repercussions of this will be a lot more ' hefty' . The lady told me that I would receive a letter which I must respond to giving my side of the story , I have seen many posts where people have been summoned to court . Has anyone got any advice for me when I respond to this letter in what I should say or do should I attach a payment invoice covering the fair and the admin fee ? , I have a feeling cause I lied to them they are going to take me to court no matter what I say . If I do go to court what would the outcome be ? I have never had an encounter in this manner with the Arriva trains wales before this is the first time I have done something like this . I have encountered with the police for something silly in December which I had a fine for will that effects me if this goes to court ? I was really idiotic to even lie about where I boarded and it is something that I would not do again . If anyone can help me out and advise me I would greatly appreciate it . Thanks Shaun
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