Hi Chris, Thanks for the reply, Yes, my facts are 100%. Its just the question of improper practices when executing a seizure notice, do I make the bailiffs aware of this or would it be better to complain to the council as Im likely to get a better response from them as they are instructing the bailiff ie I don't want this filed in the bin by the bailiff. Also, where can I find the guidelines issued to bailiffs regarding proper practises when acting under instruction from a council? Thanks again, Fwog

Theres set amounts they can charge, have a search around the site and find out what they are. I think its 150 ish for an attendance to remove a car,25 for the first foot visit and 18 for the second after that , if they cant get access to make a list of goods they get bored and hassle someone else. Dont go down the road of confrontation, your playing into their hands, just go by the book. Belive it or not, they really do streach the realms of reality with their interpretation of the law. Forewarned is forearmed:D The car cant be take by them as it doesnt belong to you(legally) Show them the credit agreement or similar to underline this. Notwithstanding that, I wouldn't allow them the opportunity to get a clamp on it anyway, its just easier to hide it whilst you get this sorted. Best of luck mate Fwog

Good move;) Even if they return and try to gain entry, just explain the situation through the letter box Fwog

Ah, those ones you let the tyre down again to creat slack in the chain and use an angled tyre wrench to undo the wheel nuts, take tyre off ,brake pads,remove brake disc, et voila! Chain slips over hub, re assamble, re inflate, set-up camcorder for bailifs arrival to capture some 'you been framed' type filming . :D:D:D:D:D Fwog

Just wanted to 'float one up there' .... Scenario, bailiff is due on the next day to remove/levy/basically put a downer on your day:) (as the above case implies) Could he... Park his car on private land, remove the number plates (no law broken there) as 'they're attractive to thieves'?....remove tax disc (again the non-display law refers to public highways) shut ther door, sit tight? Just came to me today, I wonder if its been used before? or, if it is of use to anyone here;) Fwog

Im not advocating law breaking at the same time I hate to stand by and let someone be taken advantage of.........so a solution to your clamp would be to let your tyre down completely, drive it out of the clamp, then re-inflate. Hope this helps strike a balance;) Fwog

Hi all, Well Mr Bailiff has gone forth to multiply with £600 of my hard earned, worth it to have a quiet Christmas:( Just to recap, I want the council to .... 1, refund the charges levied when Bristow an Sutor took a debt card payment (4%) 2,The bailiff didn't use his certificated name on the seizure notice. I would like to complain to the council regarding his lack of respect to due process. Therefore any pointers to the legal obligations of a certified bailiff when serving a notice would be good 3,The fees outlined in my previous post seem excessive to Debtline , how do I go about recovering the excess? (roughly £35) What's the best way to go about this? Would it be best for me to go to the bailiff first to complain? Or , as I'd rather do, go direct to the council with my grievances? Any ideas on how to follow this one up would be gratefully appreciated. Regards Fwog

Just thought its another string to your bow:D To answer your questions 1. It also stops telephone harrasment 2.Its more direct than tps as its controled by you. I thought its a bit more control over who uses your telephone line to contact you. Bet someone has a use for it. Also, its compatible with VOiP. So you can integrate it with callburner (if you need to) Best regards Fwog

Hi all, Found a site called phonespamfilter. They screen out canvassing calls and harassment calls from unwanted sources. If its any good to you use it. Cheers Fwog PS have pm site team asking if its ok to post. Delete it if you think its not.

Ring the number saying 'why did you leave a 50" plasma tv outside my house when I never ordered one!!!!' :D:D:D

Nice thought, but if they are going under they'll just sell your debt as a going concern. Or the administrators will undertake to collect it. I would look for compensation as a first port of call. Fwog

Ignore it till you get something on paper. Wouldnt pay too much attention to an e-mail...could be fraudsters for all you know. Sit tight,they wont even know if its reached the correct person. Fwog

Looks like its Christmas bonus week for the bailiffs judging by the amount of similar posts. Really nice of them to start just before the festive season. They close over Christmas, so get mailing and they'll have to defer it till New Year. :p:p Fwog

Wow! The Marston Group are really taking the proverbial. Cant we all complain to the oft? Maybe if enough e-mails reach them, they may look at reigning them in? Just a thought Fwog

As Chris said. They've limited powers in this circumstance .Therefore if they do call, shut windows,you can answer the door,this isnt advised, as theyre not allowed to enter unless invited. If you do invite, they can gain entry at a later date when your not there. I had a fine years ago,it went out of control, from £25 (thts how longh ago it was roll: ) for speeding to over £300. Luckily, I didnt know the extent of the fine till much futher down the line. By this time it had been returned to the court. Back to £25 quid! I duly paid in full and went on my way like a good citizen should Theres a 'your not gaining entry ' letter on here. Print it , give it to the bailiff and try to pay the courts direct. If they cant gain access, they cant do anything. Fwog

Little man - 1 Faceless Red-tape Behemoth - 0 Good for you! Fwog

On the back of the forms they gave you is a formula for working it out. Theres NOTHING on the back of anything they gave me! Hi Ive read somewhere on this forum that a list of all fees should be on the back of any possesion order they leave. As TT has said ,they seem to be a rule onto themselves. I would look up the post regarding issuing the correct paperwork on a visit and have a read. If the notice isnt right , I think the charges are invalid. So, as chris said... Make yourself a cup of tea and wait for the councils response;) Fwog

I cant get TT so I think the best course would be to pay them (today) and then take it up with the council. I really dislike bailiffs and the less I have to do with them the better. I could adopt the siege mentality but as I have the funds to pay, I dont think its worth dragging this out any longer. We all know bailiffs dont play fair,so if I satisfy what they 'think' theyre owed, I can then - probably- get some sense out of the council. Its a sorry state of affairs when the power that be employ these bully boys to do their dirty work. Im mean , if your in distress,you have financial difficulties, where in the heck are you meant to stump-up the money from? The bailiffs lead you into a spiral of ever higher charges with no get out clause. Ive read a few posts where people have complied with the bailiffs and they seem to get screwed in the long run. Its as though the bailiff thinks you owe them a living. Thanks for all the help. You cold do with a few more people on here just pointing new posters to the basics, as this cuts through alot of the bailiffs c**p;) (present company accepted ) Thanks to everyone who has posted on this thread. The info has been greatly appreciated Will post back when Ive been in touch with the council Fwog

I think the phrase is your 'demonstrating that your not refusing to pay'. Mr bailiff and co will still try and get fees out of you, but if your dealing with the council,this will just be a waste of his time and they will move on. Make it clear to the bailiff your course of action and send letters to the council to confirm what you've told them. Then sit tight, shut your windows and dont invite them in. As I said, Im not professing to be an expert in this but just trying to point you in the right direction. Have a look around the forum and you will find this is the case scenario for most bailiffs, bully, bluster and browbeating. (im not allowed to swear) Make sure they know their own rules!

Nice..surprised theyre not using a bit glitter and santa logo:lol:

Hi Tomtubby 00.19 post.....Wow you burn it at both ends:) 1,Cars mine 2,worth 5-6k 3,Unless Im a pimp.....no:D The dates are oct 28th, nov 3rd and nov 14th Im really on a timer now...this is getting close..I dont want to query them too much. (..... as Im on the phone to BS there towing the car away and firing charges at me). Its too late for the post as its 5th Dec they're returning ,so will a phone call halt them ? I was told by debt line that if I make them aware of thier mistake, they're likely to send another bailliff around to fire more charges and make their case watertight Im 99% sure on the certification being different from the name on the seizure notice. The other 1% tells me he must not even be on the list. As Ive said ..its really close.. would I be better to pay them and take it up with the council at a later date? I don't think I will get any joy out of BS....:thinks:wont play fair. I called The National Debt line and they've came up with a figure of £65.19 for the charges. The final leter is and advertisement of goods notice and theyre comming to grab car 5/12/08 :eek: Any ideas would be good Thanks Fwog PS yes the levy fee in post 20# is on the car which is what the seizure notice is for (you dont have a cry smiley so this one will have to do) :/

Hi Templates are all over this forum, just search a few titles. From what Ive read (Im only on here waiting for a reply :o) they cant take the car if the owner proves its his ie. show them the log-book or if they take it, go and see a solicitor for a statutory declaration. About £5. this shows that the owner legally swears its his. After that, lock windows close doors and wait for them to go away. Then when the debt is returned to the council, pay them direct. Theres letters on here for you to send to the council, hand to the bailiff etc.. Im only advising on the bits that ive read. I urge you to search the forum to confirm it. Hope it goes well Fwog

Thats a really good retort to thier tactics. I dont think you can be held liable if the debt is satified. Get a copy of receipt and keep records of all the contact. Thats all I can say. I dont think you have anything to worry about. Although, I would wait for a more qualified reply Fwog

It must be me or something.......

Hi Let me start by saying....Im in no way able to advise you on your situation. Ive had a thread on this forum and had a similar situation. If you have any document signed or with the bailifs name on or you can ring the head office asking for the guys name whos dealing with it . Then you can call 020 3334 6355 and they will tell you if the guys registered or not. Also, they able to help you if ou need to file a complaint against said bailiff. Hope this gives you a hand;) Fwog