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    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

      Please can you advise what I need to do today to get this done. 
       

      Many thanks 
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    • Housing Association property flooding. https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/438641-housing-association-property-flooding/&do=findComment&comment=5124299
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    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

      OT APPROVED, 365MC637, FAROOQ, EVRi, 12.07.23 (BRENT) - J v4.pdf
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My personal opinion (not endorsed by anybody else) is that Advantage Gold is one of Nat West's biggest money-spinners ever. They charge you a monthly fee for services that you rarely (if ever!) use.

 

I found out a few years ago that my account had been converted to an AG account without me actually signing up for it. Why was it converted? I withdrew cash from the bank with a cashier who had a chat with me about the benefits of AG............ and then promptly converted my account to AG without my consent!

 

If you're sure that you never signed up for the AG account ask them for your signed agreement. It could be that you could actually get these fees back (many have to date) on the basis that you didn't agree to this account and that you don't benefit from it in any way shape or form. And I'm pretty sure that they have a duty to prove that you agreed to have this account.

 

Go for it - I hate the whole AG scene with a passion and, to be honest, I'd love to see it scrapped! ;)

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How about a full subject access request? Not just an exercise in sending out bank statements - but a request for all information stating that you require signed agreements (including the info they should have on file pertaining to the AG account).

 

If they can't produce anything under the S.A.R - (Subject Access Request), I'd assume you could challenge the account fees on this basis. E.g., you didn't sign up for the account, you didn't agree to the account, you want a full refund of the fees levied during the period of time you've had AG, etc.

 

This could be really interesting - I haven't seen anybody successfully challenge the AG account from this angle before. Although you could have a real battle on your hands with them. What do you think Steven?

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Best of luck with this - I think it'll be really interesting to see what Nat West do once they receive your prelim. They may possibly scrabble around looking for anything that you could have signed that relates to the AG account. But if they can't produce it/prove that you agreed to open it................. watch this space! ;)

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Well they are very rude, but no more than usual. They have not even responded to my request under the Data Protection Act non-compliance. Will I report them to the Information Commissioners Office and then issue a claim via the court to get this information. They have failed to supply me with information of other matters.

 

TBH, I don't think you have any other option except the above. If they fail to comply and you need the data to proceed further (which you do) then they've left you with no choice whatsoever.

 

However, to save you any immediate fees at a time when money's short (xmas and all that!) how about one last shot with a final warning letter? ;)

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Your rant is totally understandable hun! IfI had a penny for every time I'd ranted about Nat West, I'd be a rich woman by now....... trust me! ;)

 

Hopefully, you'll get your chance to show (one day) that Nat West aren't worth the paper they're written on - whereas you are worth far more than they could ever become. ;)

 

So give them one last chance.............. and then hit them with everything that you've got. And you'll get support every step of the way........... so at least you'll know that you're facing them head on with some back-up! x :)

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