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    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

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Hi hopeing that some one will be able to help me or have been in the same position and have some friendly advice .I have recently sent the DPA letter and in the time scale recieved my statements and then worked out what i believe i am owed and sent the request in money letter back and in this letter it says will give them 14 days to respond , well they responded 5 days later with a letter that says

 

dear morleywhite

Request for Repayment of charges

 

i write to you regarding your recent complaint. i would like to make you aware that your complaint has been acknowledged and is in the process of being referred to our customer relations team.

You will find enclosed a copy of our complaints leaflet .

Your concerns will be dealt with as quickly as possible, but if you need to speak to me in the mean time please contact me on tel:...............

 

 

Now what i want to know is if this is a standard letter and how long do i wait for them to get in touch before i get in touch with them .

 

thanks in adavnce for any advice

Halifax ACC 1

D.P.A sent 11/04.2006

Request for £190.00 sent 4/05/2006

£100 offer recieved 24/05/2006

L.B.A sent 30/05/2006

Moneyclaim submitted 3/07/2006

Paid up in full 27/07/2006

 

 

 

Halifax ACC 2

Request for £1218.00 + £261.34 int sent 30/05/2006

No response

£340.00 offer recieved 7/06/2006

L B A sent 14/06/2006

Moneyclaim submitted 3/07/2006

Paid up in full 27/07/2006

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Hi, and welcome!

 

Please read the FAQ's section before beginning, as you will have a lot to read and take on board first. The answer to your question is a simple one, wait the 14 days out, then send your LBA....

 

We are here to help, but ultimately, its your claim and your responsibility!

 

Good Luck,

 

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  • 2 weeks later...

To just give a quick update ,just had another letter offering me half what i requested as a " GOOD WILL GESTURE " so once more into the breach i shall go in my fight for justice ( and more money ) .

Halifax ACC 1

D.P.A sent 11/04.2006

Request for £190.00 sent 4/05/2006

£100 offer recieved 24/05/2006

L.B.A sent 30/05/2006

Moneyclaim submitted 3/07/2006

Paid up in full 27/07/2006

 

 

 

Halifax ACC 2

Request for £1218.00 + £261.34 int sent 30/05/2006

No response

£340.00 offer recieved 7/06/2006

L B A sent 14/06/2006

Moneyclaim submitted 3/07/2006

Paid up in full 27/07/2006

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To just give a quick update ,just had another letter offering me half what i requested as a " GOOD WILL GESTURE " so once more into the breach i shall go in my fight for justice ( and more money ) .

 

Thats a standard reply as well go for the whole hog rather than a back leg :D

:) Go on ... you know you want to click me :)

:lol:don't be like the banks - give a little back :lol:

:D There was a time before CAG but now CAG is here we are the empowered! :D

In progress:

Mechs and Mother (deceased) V Halifax - N1 form filed at Court 9 Aug 06

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Just a quick update on my struggle for justice , i have sent a letter back saying thankyou for the offer of half which i will accept as part payment but i still require the other half or legal action will be taken . So here's hopeing on a quick and easy settlement .

 

 

"I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith." Bible, 2 Timothy iv. 7.

Halifax ACC 1

D.P.A sent 11/04.2006

Request for £190.00 sent 4/05/2006

£100 offer recieved 24/05/2006

L.B.A sent 30/05/2006

Moneyclaim submitted 3/07/2006

Paid up in full 27/07/2006

 

 

 

Halifax ACC 2

Request for £1218.00 + £261.34 int sent 30/05/2006

No response

£340.00 offer recieved 7/06/2006

L B A sent 14/06/2006

Moneyclaim submitted 3/07/2006

Paid up in full 27/07/2006

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Thats correct way as some people are just refusing half the money when in fact they shouldn't , only reject any conditions attatched.

When you want to fool the world, tell the truth. :D

Advice & opinions of Janet-M are offered informally, without prejudice & without liability. Use your own judgment. Seek advice of a qualified insured professional if you have any

doubts.

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Just recieved another letter "saying sorry you was unhappy with initial offer of £100.00 blah blah blah , however to reach a amicable soloution to your complaint i am prepared to offer £340.00 in full and final settlement " now this is great as i was only asking for £190.00 back on this account but this is were my problem begins ,to accept this i have to sign a form saying i accept this as full and final settlement of my complaint regarding bank charges on any of my halifax ACCOUNTS , now this is my problem as i am currently trying to get just short of £1500 from another halifax account , obviously i want to get the money offered for the first account but dont want to ruining my chances on other account .Does anyone know how i can accept the money and still carry on my other claim .

 

thanks

Halifax ACC 1

D.P.A sent 11/04.2006

Request for £190.00 sent 4/05/2006

£100 offer recieved 24/05/2006

L.B.A sent 30/05/2006

Moneyclaim submitted 3/07/2006

Paid up in full 27/07/2006

 

 

 

Halifax ACC 2

Request for £1218.00 + £261.34 int sent 30/05/2006

No response

£340.00 offer recieved 7/06/2006

L B A sent 14/06/2006

Moneyclaim submitted 3/07/2006

Paid up in full 27/07/2006

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Same again really - accept what they are offering as settlement of the account in question ONLY without surrendering any rights to claim other charges on other accounts.

Jeep (The Wife & I)

Halifax joint a/c (£3800 charges + £40 interest on charges over 11 years) - paid in full 23/06/06

Halifax joint a/c new charges £1100 - LBA sent 02/08/06

Halifax 2nd a/c (£1500 charges + £150 interest on charges) - partial payment received 13/07/06 (no s69 interest) - AQ filed 07/08/06 - Court awarded 50% of s69 interest (Bank didn't turn up!)

Halifax Visa (#1) Data Protection Act sent - statements arrived - £350 so far

Halifax Visa (#2) Data Protection Act sent - refunded £170

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Does anyone know how to word such a letter as not very good at his sort of thing and really dont want to mess it up as i have got this close to getting my money back .

 

thanks in advance

Halifax ACC 1

D.P.A sent 11/04.2006

Request for £190.00 sent 4/05/2006

£100 offer recieved 24/05/2006

L.B.A sent 30/05/2006

Moneyclaim submitted 3/07/2006

Paid up in full 27/07/2006

 

 

 

Halifax ACC 2

Request for £1218.00 + £261.34 int sent 30/05/2006

No response

£340.00 offer recieved 7/06/2006

L B A sent 14/06/2006

Moneyclaim submitted 3/07/2006

Paid up in full 27/07/2006

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Does anyone know how to word such a letter as not very good at his sort of thing and really dont want to mess it up as i have got this close to getting my money back .

 

thanks in advance

Something along the lines of: -

 

Account No: 00000000

 

Thank you for your offer dated dd/mm/yyyy. I do not agree to the terms of the stated offer on the basis that it precludes me from reclaiming any further unlawful charges applied to other accounts held by me with the bank.

 

If you are prepared to remove that restriction I will be happy to accept the amount of £000.00 as settlement of the claim for penalty charges against the above numbered account ONLY.

Jeep (The Wife & I)

Halifax joint a/c (£3800 charges + £40 interest on charges over 11 years) - paid in full 23/06/06

Halifax joint a/c new charges £1100 - LBA sent 02/08/06

Halifax 2nd a/c (£1500 charges + £150 interest on charges) - partial payment received 13/07/06 (no s69 interest) - AQ filed 07/08/06 - Court awarded 50% of s69 interest (Bank didn't turn up!)

Halifax Visa (#1) Data Protection Act sent - statements arrived - £350 so far

Halifax Visa (#2) Data Protection Act sent - refunded £170

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Thank you very much for your time and help on this matter it really is appreciated.

 

thank you

morleywhite

Halifax ACC 1

D.P.A sent 11/04.2006

Request for £190.00 sent 4/05/2006

£100 offer recieved 24/05/2006

L.B.A sent 30/05/2006

Moneyclaim submitted 3/07/2006

Paid up in full 27/07/2006

 

 

 

Halifax ACC 2

Request for £1218.00 + £261.34 int sent 30/05/2006

No response

£340.00 offer recieved 7/06/2006

L B A sent 14/06/2006

Moneyclaim submitted 3/07/2006

Paid up in full 27/07/2006

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Does this look and sound alright before i send it

my address

 

Halifax Plc

Customer Relations

PO Box 548

Leeds

LS1 1WU

 

8/06/2006

 

Dear Elaine Brown

 

ACCOUNT NUMBER :

REFERENCE NUMBER :

 

Thank you for your offer dated 7/06/2006. I do not agree to the terms of the stated offer on the basis that it precludes me from reclaiming any further unlawful charges applied to other accounts held by me with the bank.

If you are prepared to remove that restriction I will be happy to accept the amount of £340.00 as settlement of the claim for penalty charges against the above numbered account ONLY.

I will give you 14 days to reply to my request before I will begin a claim against you for the full amount plus interest plus my costs and without further notice.

 

 

Yours faithfully,

Halifax ACC 1

D.P.A sent 11/04.2006

Request for £190.00 sent 4/05/2006

£100 offer recieved 24/05/2006

L.B.A sent 30/05/2006

Moneyclaim submitted 3/07/2006

Paid up in full 27/07/2006

 

 

 

Halifax ACC 2

Request for £1218.00 + £261.34 int sent 30/05/2006

No response

£340.00 offer recieved 7/06/2006

L B A sent 14/06/2006

Moneyclaim submitted 3/07/2006

Paid up in full 27/07/2006

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If this is to be your Letter Before Action (LBA), then use the template LBA and add the extra paragraphs at the beginning.

Jeep (The Wife & I)

Halifax joint a/c (£3800 charges + £40 interest on charges over 11 years) - paid in full 23/06/06

Halifax joint a/c new charges £1100 - LBA sent 02/08/06

Halifax 2nd a/c (£1500 charges + £150 interest on charges) - partial payment received 13/07/06 (no s69 interest) - AQ filed 07/08/06 - Court awarded 50% of s69 interest (Bank didn't turn up!)

Halifax Visa (#1) Data Protection Act sent - statements arrived - £350 so far

Halifax Visa (#2) Data Protection Act sent - refunded £170

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The thing is i have already sent a LBA to her so if i send another practically the same wont it look rarther wierd.

Halifax ACC 1

D.P.A sent 11/04.2006

Request for £190.00 sent 4/05/2006

£100 offer recieved 24/05/2006

L.B.A sent 30/05/2006

Moneyclaim submitted 3/07/2006

Paid up in full 27/07/2006

 

 

 

Halifax ACC 2

Request for £1218.00 + £261.34 int sent 30/05/2006

No response

£340.00 offer recieved 7/06/2006

L B A sent 14/06/2006

Moneyclaim submitted 3/07/2006

Paid up in full 27/07/2006

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The thing is i have already sent a LBA to her so if i send another practically the same wont it look rarther wierd.
Fair enough, just thought I'd better check first! In that case it should be OK but don't change the timescale - you might want to just remind them of when the LBA runs out. ;)

Jeep (The Wife & I)

Halifax joint a/c (£3800 charges + £40 interest on charges over 11 years) - paid in full 23/06/06

Halifax joint a/c new charges £1100 - LBA sent 02/08/06

Halifax 2nd a/c (£1500 charges + £150 interest on charges) - partial payment received 13/07/06 (no s69 interest) - AQ filed 07/08/06 - Court awarded 50% of s69 interest (Bank didn't turn up!)

Halifax Visa (#1) Data Protection Act sent - statements arrived - £350 so far

Halifax Visa (#2) Data Protection Act sent - refunded £170

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I am now at the stage were i have had offers on both accounts and i have agreed to accept them both as part payments but i will require the rest of the money owed and i have now recieved a letter saying sorry that you felt our offers to refund some of your charges was'nt accepted but we will wont be paying all your charges back . So i guess now i go to money claim and take it from there .

 

Just a question on moneyclaim is it straightforward to fill in and is there anything i should be aware of ?

 

thanks morleywhite

Halifax ACC 1

D.P.A sent 11/04.2006

Request for £190.00 sent 4/05/2006

£100 offer recieved 24/05/2006

L.B.A sent 30/05/2006

Moneyclaim submitted 3/07/2006

Paid up in full 27/07/2006

 

 

 

Halifax ACC 2

Request for £1218.00 + £261.34 int sent 30/05/2006

No response

£340.00 offer recieved 7/06/2006

L B A sent 14/06/2006

Moneyclaim submitted 3/07/2006

Paid up in full 27/07/2006

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Halifax joint a/c (£3800 charges + £40 interest on charges over 11 years) - paid in full 23/06/06

Halifax joint a/c new charges £1100 - LBA sent 02/08/06

Halifax 2nd a/c (£1500 charges + £150 interest on charges) - partial payment received 13/07/06 (no s69 interest) - AQ filed 07/08/06 - Court awarded 50% of s69 interest (Bank didn't turn up!)

Halifax Visa (#1) Data Protection Act sent - statements arrived - £350 so far

Halifax Visa (#2) Data Protection Act sent - refunded £170

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Just submitted my claim using moneyclaim so i guess i just sit back and hope for the best . Gotta confess though do feel kinda nervous now cause it all seems very real now .

Halifax ACC 1

D.P.A sent 11/04.2006

Request for £190.00 sent 4/05/2006

£100 offer recieved 24/05/2006

L.B.A sent 30/05/2006

Moneyclaim submitted 3/07/2006

Paid up in full 27/07/2006

 

 

 

Halifax ACC 2

Request for £1218.00 + £261.34 int sent 30/05/2006

No response

£340.00 offer recieved 7/06/2006

L B A sent 14/06/2006

Moneyclaim submitted 3/07/2006

Paid up in full 27/07/2006

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No need to be nervous - you're on the home straight now! :p

Jeep (The Wife & I)

Halifax joint a/c (£3800 charges + £40 interest on charges over 11 years) - paid in full 23/06/06

Halifax joint a/c new charges £1100 - LBA sent 02/08/06

Halifax 2nd a/c (£1500 charges + £150 interest on charges) - partial payment received 13/07/06 (no s69 interest) - AQ filed 07/08/06 - Court awarded 50% of s69 interest (Bank didn't turn up!)

Halifax Visa (#1) Data Protection Act sent - statements arrived - £350 so far

Halifax Visa (#2) Data Protection Act sent - refunded £170

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  • 4 weeks later...

It's six days before the 28 days is up and i have just checked my Halifax Account online and to my shock and complete suprise a sum of £1800 has been put in my account by the nice people of the Halifax .So in short they have paid me the full amount plus all the interest i was asking for .

 

So i would like to take this oppertunity to say a big THANK YOU to the people who run the site and give up there time to help others and would also like to thank any one who offered me advice and support in my ongoing struggle for justice .

 

HAPPY DAYS :-D

Halifax ACC 1

D.P.A sent 11/04.2006

Request for £190.00 sent 4/05/2006

£100 offer recieved 24/05/2006

L.B.A sent 30/05/2006

Moneyclaim submitted 3/07/2006

Paid up in full 27/07/2006

 

 

 

Halifax ACC 2

Request for £1218.00 + £261.34 int sent 30/05/2006

No response

£340.00 offer recieved 7/06/2006

L B A sent 14/06/2006

Moneyclaim submitted 3/07/2006

Paid up in full 27/07/2006

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Excellent news! Well done. Have you filled in the Survey?

Jeep (The Wife & I)

Halifax joint a/c (£3800 charges + £40 interest on charges over 11 years) - paid in full 23/06/06

Halifax joint a/c new charges £1100 - LBA sent 02/08/06

Halifax 2nd a/c (£1500 charges + £150 interest on charges) - partial payment received 13/07/06 (no s69 interest) - AQ filed 07/08/06 - Court awarded 50% of s69 interest (Bank didn't turn up!)

Halifax Visa (#1) Data Protection Act sent - statements arrived - £350 so far

Halifax Visa (#2) Data Protection Act sent - refunded £170

DONATE - Support this site, it supported you!

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C O N G R A T U L A T I O N S:D

 

Cheers

 

Daniel

20/06/06 - Prelim sent for £4041

22/06/06 - Standard Letter received from Halifax

25/06/06 - Call with offer of £465 - £1465 - declined

27/06/06 - LBA Sent for £4041

07/07/06 - MoneyClaim filed online

11/07/06 - Acknowledged / Intend to Defend

31/07/06 - Yippee.....I WON - SETTLED IN FULL

01/08/06 - Second Part of Claim Filed £4397

04/08/06 - Acknowledged by Halifax

09/08/06 - SETTLED IN FULL

10/07/06 - Egg Request for Statements

16/07/06 - Received past 6 Years Statements

16/07/06 - Total Charges - £960

19/07/06 - Prelim Letter Sent

10/07/06 - AA Visa Request for Statements

16/07/06 - Received past 6 Years Statements

16/07/06 - Total Charges - £280

19/07/06 - Prelim Letter Sent

27/07/06 - Offer of Goodwill £140, offer refused by phone

28/07/06 - LBA Sent

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If you would like to post up some information which is relevant to this particular topic then please flag the issue up to the site team and the thread will be reopened.

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Halifax ACC 1

D.P.A sent 11/04.2006

Request for £190.00 sent 4/05/2006

£100 offer recieved 24/05/2006

L.B.A sent 30/05/2006

Moneyclaim submitted 3/07/2006

Paid up in full 27/07/2006

 

 

 

Halifax ACC 2

Request for £1218.00 + £261.34 int sent 30/05/2006

No response

£340.00 offer recieved 7/06/2006

L B A sent 14/06/2006

Moneyclaim submitted 3/07/2006

Paid up in full 27/07/2006

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