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    • If I have learnt one thing from this forum, it's not to call and communicate via email. I passed this info on to her and they are pushing for her to call them.    "Unfortunately, you will need to call us. The conversation won’t be so black and white as to therefore type over email. In a nutshell we can confirm that the request to not pay for 3 months we cannot put in place"  I emailed them back on her behalf and said that what ever is discussed over the phone will need to be put in an email so that she can review it properly. No decisions will be made on that phone call.    "Once we speak to you on the phone we will follow up with an email to confirm the options discussed. [Phone number]"   Why are they pushing for a phone call? If its not so black and white, why can they then follow up with an email?  
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This means that when an assignee purchases debts (or otherwise acquires rights under a credit agreement) it also acquires certain obligations to the borrower including the duty to comply with CCA requirements (such as the rules on statements and notices and other post-contractual information). The assignee becomes the creditor under the agreement. This ensures that essential consumer protections under the CCA cannot be circumvented by assigning the debt to a third party. 2. The Claim relates to an alleged Credit Card agreement between the Defendant and Bank of Scotland plc. Save insofar of any admittance it is accepted that the Defendant has had contractual agreements with Bank of Scotland plc in the past, the Defendant is unaware as to what alleged debt the Claimant refers. The Defendant has not entered any contract with the Claimant. 3. 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Without the Claimant providing a valid true copy of the executed Credit agreement that complies with the CCA, the Claimant has no grounds on which to enforce this alleged debt. 11. The Claimant has been unjustly enriched at the expense of the Defendant by purchasing bulk debt at a greatly reduced cost and subrogating for the original creditor in trying to recuperate the full amount of the original debt 12. The Defendant was not given ample evidence to prove the debt and therefore was not required to enter settlement negotiations. Should the debt be proved in the future, the Defendant is willing to enter such negotiations with the Claimant. On receipt of this claim I could not recall the precise details of the agreement or any debt and sought clarity from the claimant by way of a Section 78 request. The Claimant failed to comply. I can only assume as this was due to the Claimant not having any enforceable documentation and issuing a claim in hope of an undefended default judgment.   Statement of Truth I, ********, the Defendant, believe the facts stated within this Witness Statement to be true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in it’s truth. Signed: _________________________ _______ Dated: _____________________
    • Morning,  I am hoping someone can help, I am posting on behalf of my friend so I will try and provide as much info as possible.  Due health reasons, she is currently not working and unable to pay her contractual car finance payments. She emailed 247 Money and asked for a 3 month payment holiday, they refused this straight away with no reasons as to why. They have told her that instead she can make a payment of £200. She is currently getting £400+ a month ssp so this is not acceptable. She went back to them and explained she cannot make this payment and they have not offered an alternative plan. Its £200 or she falls into default.  She is now panicking as she does not want her car to be taken away. What options does she have?  Thank you, 
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Hi,

 

After reading lots on this site, I decided to start the process of reclaiming charges on my Debenhams (GE Money) store card. Here is where I'm up to:

 

05/02/2007 We sent "Preliminary Approach For Repayment" letter

 

15/02/2007 They sent a letter which was a 100% offer with conditions

 

16/02/2007 They sent the cheque corresponding to their 100% offer with conditions letter

 

18/02/2007 We sent "Rejection of Settlement Offer (conditions attached)" letter

 

22/02/2007 We sent "Credit or Store Card - Letter Before Action" letter

 

22/02/2007 They sent amended 100% offer letter without the offending condition, and enclosed the previous cheque. (Note: this arrived after we'd sent the above letter)

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Hello THF

 

Glad I have found your thread! I am in the process of starting a claim against Debenhams (GE) on behalf of my mum.

 

Out of interest - what were the conditions? where they requesting you repay what you owe? Or that you cut up the card etc etc. I ask as my mum is rather attached to her card!!! DB is her fav store!!!

 

Have you accepted their offer??

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Hi MBK,

 

The condition that I objected to was the phrase "in full and final settlement of this matter". I've read on the CAG website that we should not accept any conditions with an offer, and I don't see why I should sign away my right to take any action in the future if things change.

 

I also objected to this same condition with Egg and they, like GE Money in this case, sent me back the same letter but with the offending words deleted! To me this proves that the phrase is not necessary, and that they were just trying to be sneaky - don't let them get away with it, just as you're not letting them get away with taking your money!

 

The balance on the card was zero, but I've banked the cheque (as it was 100% of what I claimed) and will write to accept the offer once it has cleared.

 

Hope this helps, and good luck with your claim(s) :)

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Hi THF

 

thanks for that...I will keep that in mind. Def don't want any conditions attached to any settlement offered. I am at the very early stages....wanting to read up on all that I can. There is so much info to digest!!!

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  • 3 weeks later...

05/03/2007 Their cheque has cleared so we sent "Acceptance Of Settlement Offer (only if they've attached no conditions)" letter. This is now over. We won :-)

 

The amount of this claim was (only) £15.00, and we received £15.00.

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Hi,

 

After reading lots on this site, I decided to start the process of reclaiming charges on my Debenhams (GE Money) store card. Here is where I'm up to:

 

05/02/2007 We sent "Preliminary Approach For Repayment" letter

 

15/02/2007 They sent a letter which was a 100% offer with conditions

 

16/02/2007 They sent the cheque corresponding to their 100% offer with conditions letter

 

18/02/2007 We sent "Rejection of Settlement Offer (conditions

attached)" letter

 

22/02/2007 We sent "Credit or Store Card - Letter Before Action" letter

 

22/02/2007 They sent amended 100% offer letter without the offending condition, and enclosed the previous cheque. (Note: this arrived after we'd sent the above letter)

 

 

Could you please let me know the address to Ge Money, Ive send 2 letters to GE Capital Bank , 6 Agar st wc2n 4hr on the 21/3 but still havent arrived according to royal mail so I think is better to send them as you say to GE Money (I didnt know theyve change names) I am also looking for the address for TIME RETAIL FINANCE (Comet) card I have Selectapost 17 S97 3Bs

I will appreciate your information. Thanks:D

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Estela,

 

The first address that I used was:

GE Capital Bank Limited

Customer Services Department

Trent House

Torre Road

Leeds

LS99 2BD

but the replies came from a different address, so I used that in all future correspondence. That address was:

GE Money

PO Box 700

Leeds

LS99 2BD

I did a search on Google for "TIME RETAIL FINANCE" and it came up with:

Time Retail Finance

Hepworth House

Claypit Lane

Leeds

LS2 8AE

West Yorkshire

Tel: 0870 240 0884

Fax: 0870 3302032

 

Hope this helps :)

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Estela,

 

The first address that I used was:

GE Capital Bank Limited

Customer Services Department

Trent House

Torre Road

Leeds

LS99 2BD

 

but the replies came from a different address, so I used that in all future correspondence. That address was:

GE Money

PO Box 700

Leeds

LS99 2BD

 

I did a search on Google for "TIME RETAIL FINANCE" and it came up with:

Time Retail Finance

Hepworth House

Claypit Lane

Leeds

LS2 8AE

West Yorkshire

 

Tel:

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Estela,

 

I didn't understand that last post of yours! :confused:

 

Do you want to give it another go?!?

Sorry is a copy of yours!!! I dont know how this happened but thank you for your information:D :p

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  • 3 weeks later...

Didnt know until yesterday that claims can be made against cards too-so is it acceptable to make claim against HSBC as my husband and daughter both have accounts and are being charged £12 for each late payment which is only a day or so.If so,is the same preliminary letter sent-with maybe just a few modifications?Appreciate any help on this matter.

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Pattacake,

 

Yes, you certainly can claim for these.

 

Have a look at the Bank Templates Library - there is a letter template there for credit/store cards: http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/bank-templates-library/

 

Also, have a look at the following step-by-step guide for an overview of the process:

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/faqs-please-read-these/31460-example-step-step-instructions.html

 

Finally, start a new thread for each claim in the "HSBC Bank" forum so that you can keep us up to date and ask any questions there.

 

Good luck - know up-front that it takes time but stick to your guns and you WILL win :cool:

 

 

THFC4EVER.

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