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    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

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    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
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      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

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UKPC/DCB(Legal) 11+PCNs for privately owned van used for my Ltd Co. - PAPLOC for 5, gained Default Judgement!! - Parkhorse Shopping Centre, Church St, Hudds, HD1 2RT **SET ASIDE+CLAIM DISMISSED**


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Hi, I set up in business 5 months ago, in a shopping centre which is privately owned. They have underground loading bay and parking, the parking spaces are only for those who have it in their lease. I do not.

 

I unload stock every morning, and after a while started to just leave my van there, no problems as it was out the way, and I found the security guards were just handing out the tickets to anyone who did not have a business in there, no one used it really..

 

This changed in March when they brought in UKPC, I have since amassed 10+ tickets as I ave been leaving my van there, I have spoken to the centre managers but they said it is not possible that I leave my van there.

 

I have read that UKPC can not hand out fines, and what they instead hand out are actually invoices for using a service?? There seems to be a lot of warm air around this matter..

 

I might have to start parking my van elsewhere now, it's just that business is slow and I can not afford to be paying for town centre parking...

 

I have actually threw the tickets away...

 

Can someone please advise what UKPC are liable to do?

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Hi what 'something'

do you you suggest,

try to get them to understand that I have a business here?

And that I plan to abide and park elsewhere now?

 

I am LTD company and the van is not in the compnay name, just my own.

 

By NTK do ytou mean the yellow tabs on the window?

 

Couln't I just put a sign on my van say

'any company found littering my car will be fined £100',

surely that's as absurd as what is happening here.

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Hi, so you mean just wait it out?

I am now going to park my van elsewhere form tomorrow.

 

.... Unregulated madness.. Is it likely they will attempt to take me to court...

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UKPC can't actually take me to court then?

Certainly did not sign any contract, other than my business lease, but even that does not strictly say anything about NOT parking, at least I don't think so, should I check this?

 

I only have 1 out of the 12 or so NTK from UKPC... Am I right to just bin this now?

 

Also, without sounding like a cheeky sod, should I refrain from parking in this place or would I be ok, and only the landlord land owner can enforce action such as getting the police or other?

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What I meant was, UKPC can not enforce anything.... only the land owners can enforce say police, for illegal parking, or something else?

 

So I have absolutely nothing to worry about here then?

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OK well can UKPC attempt to take me to court and get money that way?

Or do I stand on my legs that I didn't sign into any contract with them?

(Much like a lot of the issues with debt collection, you are not in a contract with any debt collection agency, only the debtor).

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Seen this article..

 

http://ulsterherald.com/2015/01/23/private-parking-operator-hasnt-taken-anyone-to-court-in-five-years/

 

Any truth in it?

 

We could say I have racked up some tickets, but majority of them issued duting their ban, march to may...

 

I have a lease on a shop unit, and park car in the car park underneath the shopping centre which is for business use only, usually deliveries, it's an old shopping centre and only 20fters come in through the day, tons of room..

 

Should I be remotely worried, my plan was to use the fact I was a paying tenant and was not just someone parking on private land.

 

I do understand though that I would have to be in some kind of contract with UKPC to be taken to court?

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Apparently the ban was lifted end of May... Any tickets issued between mid march and may can not be called on....

 

By trump do you mean outweigh their requests to do me over?

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I have been parking in a 'private' parking carpark underneath the shopping centre where I hold a lease on a premises.

To be fair I know I shouldn't as it's private, but times are hard and I'm paying enough on rent and rates!

 

The car aprk is empty.

 

I have probably got over 15 yellow NTK.

 

What should I do now?

 

I know UKPC were banned for a while but understand that has been lifted now (shock).

 

I am refusing to pay this to these cowboys.

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For a windscreen ticket (Notice To Driver) please answer the following questions....

 

1 The date of infringement? 31.05.18

 

 2 Have you yet appealed to the parking company yet? [Y/N?] NO

 

have you received a Notice To Keeper? (NTK) [must be received by you between 29-56 days]

what date is on it Did the NTK provide photographic evidence? I HAVE A LETTER HERE, WITh A PICTURE OF MY VAN PARKED, I DO NOT DOUBT THAT I PARKED THERE, I HAVE DONE SO FOR 2/3 MONTHS NOW. 

 

3 Did the NTK mention Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (PoFA) [Y/N?] THE LETTER DOES YES.

  

4 If you appealed after receiving the NTK, - I HAVE NOT YET APPEALED ANYTHING.

  

5 Who is the parking company? UKPC 

 

6. where exactly [Carpark name and town] did you park? HUDDERSFIELD, UNSURE OF NAME OF CAR PARK??

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Hi, i will be honest,

these NTK YELLOW TICKETS O SCREEN

- well they go back to about late Feb,

and got them over the last 3 months,

as I have a lease on a premises in a shopping centre and the carpark is empty most times,

it's more of a moral stance...

I undertsand they were barred from march to may?

 

I have only received one letter form them and it said the alleged a'offence' was 31st May 2018. It is now July 6th 2018.

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Some of you may remember

- I run a small retail store, in a shopping centre, there is parking but you only get 20 mins or something.

 

I had no issues whatsoever for the first 2 months, everyone did it, then in around feb started to get yellow NTK...

Now whether my next action was right or wrong is not the point here..

 

I just binned them taking no notice of them.. Let's just say I maybe got about 20 or so over 3 months...

 

I was told to not worry about DRP, I am not... Just had a letter in the door saying 'intended court action'...

 

I have absolutely no intention of 1. getting worried, and 2. taking action.

 

Can someone please let me know what I should do here..

 

I am paying tenant of the shopping centre, is there anyway I can write to them and twll them to go away nicely?

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On 20/01/2020 at 18:53, dx100uk said:

tell us the real reason why you are asking..

what is going on?

 

Well who hasn't had a few debts passed on eh?! 

And who really wants to give the light of day to any of these scumbags.

 

I accumulated 35+ yellow tickets NTK when parking at my shop premises and they have definitely ben passed on now, not that I care, because in my opinion they should never have been granted access to patrol that car park. 

 

On 20/01/2020 at 18:53, unclebulgaria67 said:

Not directly. If you use a comparison site, they may pass on your data.  Be careful when agreeing to your data being processed. 

 

I have not used a comparison site for some time now... Do they really pass your info on? When it says "we sometimes use your information for third parties to make your life better..."  Basically we just sell your data to anyone who wants it?! 

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i don't have the energy to be begging to parking cowboys not to sell  my 'invoices' (not debts) to DCAs. The fact is they do so very willingly. 

I just want to minimise any contact between me and any letters, 'visits; etc. 

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Insurance companies have every right to pass my details on.... to anyone??

 

Not what some posts above are saying.

 

Why would the insurance companies give my details away, what would give them the right, that's surly breach of contract. 

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Thank you.

 

Honestly these PCNs went in the bin 15 months ago.

I have no idea the final amount, don't really care much either..

Just needed to know if those scumbags can obtain my address in any way at all. 

 

To be perfectly honest if it come to anything I would just apply for a Debt Relief Order, but I don't think it will, and honestly I am not wasting any of my precious time worrying about cowboys like this,

 

been there before, woke up in sweats after receiving red inked letters, before I knew how the game is played by them (inflicting fear into people to control them).

 

So, now that we know they can obtain address (although earlier posts said they couldn't) well that's cool..

I'm still unsure if they can or can't ..

 

I'm not worrying here, just wondered was all. 

 

 

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