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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
    • No! What has happened is that your pix were up-to-date: 5 hours' maximum stay and £100 PCN. The lazy solicitors have sent ancient pictures: 4 hours' maximum stay and £60 PCN. Don't let on!  Let them be hoisted by their own lazy petard in the court hearing (if they don't bottle before).
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hi there just a quick hello to all. I have been looking on this site for about a month now! with the help of a friend i have already sent the 1st and second leter to the N&P and am now waiting for a reply. I have decided to do this due to the fact in jan this year the N&P bounced 29 direct debits and cheques at £29.50p each due to my old employer not paying me. I was sacked for being pregnant so they didnt pay:o . I took the company in question to a tribuniral and lost due to a loop hole in the law. so this seems my only option to get some money back that im owed! lets hope that the luck of this year gets better! Has any one won against the N&P it seems from what ive read that they shut accounts i dont mind this i have another, but i would love to read a success story,

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Hi, welcome to the forum.

 

Has any one won against the N&P

 

You could be the first.:D

 

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hello all well a little up date for you N&P have offered 50% of my money back what amount this as im a bit stuck what to do now. I have consisered writting a letter asking for exact figure they are offering of corse this will be a thank you for your offer but im now adding intrest then applying to court for the rest. But do i contact them :confused: before doing the court papers as i do not know actual amount they offering but need this for claim forms :?: x charmikjel x

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hello all well a little up date for you N&P have offered 50% of my money back what amount this as im a bit stuck what to do now. I have consisered writting a letter asking for exact figure they are offering of corse this will be a thank you for your offer but im now adding intrest then applying to court for the rest. But do i contact them :confused: before doing the court papers as i do not know actual amount they offering but need this for claim forms :?: x charmikjel x

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hello all well a little up date for you N&P have offered 50% of my money back what amount this as im a bit stuck what to do now. I have consisered writting a letter asking for exact figure they are offering of corse this will be a thank you for your offer but im now adding intrest then applying to court for the rest. But do i contact them :confused: before doing the court papers as i do not know actual amount they offering but need this for claim forms :idea: x charmikjel x

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hi can anyone help on this one i have sent a letter accepting the 50% as a parcial settlement but what do i do next?

 

Also i paid in some funds in to my account yesterday before 12 midday to cover some cheques due to clear today there was enough funds in the account to cover these but N&P BOUNCED them when i phoned today to find out why i was told that it should have been paid in 24hrs prior *IT WAS* can i add these charges??? and can banks do that even though it was cash and it was availble to draw on when i checked account last night. Happy christmas to all charmikjel:)

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hi regarding

 

i'm still not sure what you meant when you said you dont know how much you are claiming...could you explain please?:-)

 

hi i know how much im claiming for sorry i didnt make it very clear what it was is that the reply stated that he did not agree with all chgarges that i put down and he had come to a different amount but did not state what this amount was that he came to. I have gone back over my statements and double checked and stated in my reply the amount i came to and that i would be going on that amount.

 

regards charmikjel

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Hi everyone one hope you all had a nice christmas!:)

 

Well i have just back from the lowestoft court after putting in the court papers very scared now really do not want to go to court :(. Lets hope Mr N&P are feeling nice with the new year approaching and decide not to file a defence as i SCARED!!!!!!!!!!!

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well what can i say!!!! ( well acyually i cant say what i think as it has a lot f's in) On recipt of an offer of the full balance I decided to phone Mr bullok to see if i could tell him a few rules on shuting my account this was on wednesday i was told they have noted my concerns and would contact me by midday today friday with an answer. On wednresday they said i would be able to keep the accout if i sighned a confidentialyity agreement but when i decided that i would beat them to it and phone them at 9am today:D . That as they recived the court papers today that i now cannot keep my account and that if i withdraw my claim today they will pay full refund + intrest and court fees in to my account with in 7 days:eek: . Hmmmm dont think so some how i told them i would phone them back within the hour with my answer. So i did after posting on here for a little advice, was advised to say to them actually i want the money paid in to my account in full cleared funds then would cancel claim the lady on the phone Sue something or another didnt seem impressed ( s**t happens). Also told her that i would not be sighning any confidentiality agreement. She informed me a letter would go out in the post today with the offer of propsal as they would like this delt with asap. (me to :D ).

 

So guess who will be stalking mr postman in the morning will let you know what it says .

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Hi all, this is my first post. I have been reading around here for a while and found this thread helpfull. Im pleased to hear that N+P have offerd a full refund and reinstated your account. I am in exactly the same situation as you were and would apreciate any advice you may have.

 

I have sent N+P the first and second letters and they have offerd me the old 50% refund and wil be closing my aco**** on the 30th of january.

 

I have been worried about going to court if i file a claim but after reading this thread I'm going to do it. These scun bag can't get away with this!

 

charmikjel would you be able to advice me on the actions you took to keep your account open and recieve the full refund after the first and second letters were sent?

 

Many thanks.

 

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I will be donating to this site when its all settled.

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Ok i stalked the postman not bad he turned up at 9.32am saturday the 6th january 2007. must be his new years resalution to get his butt out of bed early as he dont usually dont come till 1pm ish!!! This is what the letter said.

 

Dear mrs ******

 

I am writting to confirm the details of our telephone conversations on the 5th january 2007.

 

YOu informed me that you would not be willing to withdraw the claim untill you have recived the ex-gratia payment as cleared funds in to your account.

 

Purely so as not to prolong a resolution to your complaint the society agrees to make an ex-gratia payment to you prior to you withdrawing the claim,provided that we receive your sighned acceptance agreeing to withdraw your claim immediately cleared funds are recived. such payment would be without addmission by the society.

 

yours sincerely

susan price

 

 

Then on back of letter it ask me to sign agree for payment to go in to my account. ( let me think about that one mmmmmm its my money i think i agree lol)

 

This letter was back in the post special delivery by 10.30am on same day.

 

So lets see how quick they put the payment in to account as they are quick enough to take it out lol.:D

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