right address wrong person

[telboyy]

Hi! everyone

i am new to all this so i will get straight to the point, today a bailiff from JBWgroup called when i was out and spoke to my wife and ask for my son by name, she said she was his mother but our son had left home some ten years ago, he had a vehicle registered at our address which had incurred some penalties while working in london, we knew he had the vehicle registered at our address as he works all over the country living in hotels and b&bs, so we collect his mail,

 

this was the first we had heard of the penalties. the bailiff left a form with the details about the £500 dept but the form did not have our sons name on it just "Mr" and our family name. i contacted the bailiff when i arrived home and explained that it was my sons vehicle and was not owned by me and that my son had not lived here for over ten years, i explained that relations with our son were strained and he may turn up once in a blue moon, to which he replied he would give me until monday to find my son or he would have to take goods to the value. i informed him that he would not be taking any of our belongings, he said the vehicle is registered at our address and that was enough to seize goods, to which i replied i have not committed any offence and he would need to have a first name such as the one he used when asking my wife if our son was home. sorry to be long winded but i would like to know where my wife and i stand should they return on monday.

 

any help would be most appreciated

[fork-it]

You dont need to contact the bailiff. Tracing your son or paying his debts is not your problem.

 

If a bailiff turns up then do not open the door and ask him to leave quietly. As a threat to take goods not berlonging to the debtor has been made, you will need to report this to police (take copies of all documents with you) and get an incident number. If the bailiff carries out that threat, interferes with your goods or pesters you then you can call 999 and quote the incident number.

 

Theres a template letter you can hand to a bailiff thru a window somewhere on these forums.

 

 

 

 

To Whom it may concern

 

BY HAND

 

[DATE]

 

Dear Bailiffs,

 

Re: Your visit to [1st LINE OF ADDRESS]

 

This is to confirm the person you asked for by name does not live at this address and there is no property belonging to him here.

 

This document has been passed to you by hand and a photograph of you standing outside reading it has just been taken as proof of delivery.

 

I now respectfully ask that you quietly leave the property.

 

Yours Faithfully

 

 

YOUR NAME

 

[Thegreenpimpernel]

He's stretching the truth as usual.

 

He is allowed to make reasonable assumptions as to the ownership of goods, but...

 

His 'reasoning' is clearly contrary to; your statement, the date of birth of the debtor (unless you look rather young for your age!) and every means of address verification available to him.

 

Don't tell him where your son is or you validate his tactics.

[tomtubby]

Hi! everyone

i am new to all this so i will get straight to the point, today a bailiff from JBWgroup called when i was out and spoke to my wife and ask for my son by name, she said she was his mother but our son had left home some ten years ago, he had a vehicle registered at our address which had incurred some penalties while working in london, we knew he had the vehicle registered at our address as he works all over the country living in hotels and b&bs, so we collect his mail,

 

this was the first we had heard of the penalties. the bailiff left a form with the details about the £500 dept but the form did not have our sons name on it just "Mr" and our family name. i contacted the bailiff when i arrived home and explained that it was my sons vehicle and was not owned by me and that my son had not lived here for over ten years, i explained that relations with our son were strained and he may turn up once in a blue moon, to which he replied he would give me until monday to find my son or he would have to take goods to the value. i informed him that he would not be taking any of our belongings, he said the vehicle is registered at our address and that was enough to seize goods, to which i replied i have not committed any offence and he would need to have a first name such as the one he used when asking my wife if our son was home. sorry to be long winded but i would like to know where my wife and i stand should they return on monday.

 

any help would be most appreciated

 

I suspect that JBW are doing a little bit of "backtracking" here. I would ASSUME that the warrant in his possession DOES have your son's first name on it. Were you provided with a parking ticket number? This would start with two digits followed by 8 numbers. It is possible that this is one the letter left by the bailiff.

 

Otherwise, do you know which local authority issued this parking ticket?

 

If you do manage to find the PCN number then you MUST call the Traffic Enforcement Centre on 08457 045 007 ( you will need to press 6 to speak with an operator). Once through to them you need to ask them to CONFIRM to you the PRECISE name on the Warrant of Execution.

 

I suspect that I am right !!

 

If you can answer any of the above, please do post back.

[telboyy]

Hi! thanks for the help

the bailiff left just one A4 document which is their own enforcement notice with a JBW ref no: and the amount owed. no information regarding the nature of the charge against my son i can only assume its a parking or congestion charge in london, as the bailiff informed me on the phone that it was in london that the penalties were incurred thats as much as we know.

[tomtubby]

Hi! thanks for the help

the bailiff left just one A4 document which is their own enforcement notice with a JBW ref no: and the amount owed. no information regarding the nature of the charge against my son i can only assume its a parking or congestion charge in london, as the bailiff informed me on the phone that it was in london that the penalties were incurred thats as much as we know.

 

Firstly, telephone CC London (Congestion Charging) on 0845 900 1234 and if you give them the number plate of your son's car they can let you know if there are any tickets against it. Also, they can find the information from the post code.

 

JBW do have a Contract with Transport for London for Congestion Charging. They also have a contract with Southwark.

 

If you call them and find a ticket, they should let you know whose name the Warrant is in.