Lowell discussion ????

[Bookworm]

Oooh, "fester" indeed.

 

I do see Lowells being given short thrift by CAG members though, do I not? I don't see their (CAGgers) posts being moderated, since I can clearly read them.:-? As for Lowells, seeing the swishing of skirts that resulted from their last outing, I'm not surprised they would go for a repeat episode, and see if they can get another such row started, on which by the way you seem quite happy to fan the flame.

 

Cor, that chip on the shoulder must be really slowing you down these days, maybe you should see someone about that. ;-)

[Bookworm]

Because "James", as far as I can see, apart from being his inept "self" (selves? One rather suspects a team, but one could be wrong) hasn't actually broken any of the forum rules? He hasn't insulted other users, hasn't heaped abuse on them, flamed them or anything like that.

 

Because freedom of speech (which doesn't exist on private forums, btw, that's a fallacy) as granted to us as guests on any forum, should apply to ANYONE who won't resort to insults?

 

Yes, you're right, I am personally aware of many threads/posts which have been moderated in the past. Your point being? I don't think that I have said that this forum wasn't being moderated, I know for a fact it is. However, the very fact that people like Monx and Bazooka and others are posting precisely to advise people NOT to contact Lowest clearly proves that Lowells are NOT being given the free run of the forum, otherwise ALL adverse comments would be removed and they're not. So, if not every adverse comment is being removed, maybe one needs to wonder whether it wasn't the message, but the FORM in which the message was written that needed removing?

 

You see, you lot are all making these outraged noises, but you're not even being original. We've had the same outrage when bank workers posted, when bailiffs posted, when private parking companies posted (my goodness, you should have heard the howls then!), etc, etc... Point is, if you want "freedom of speech", then it does apply equally to all, as long as they respect the minimum of social rules. In other words, disagree all you like, but there's no need to get personal about it. Ultimately, he who resorts to mere abuse fast loses all credibility (see #13 for example ;-)).

 

So: side-stepping issues? Not at all, I have made it very clear from the start, both here and on MSE, where I stand. I don't feel threatened by Lowell's presence on here, I don't give a toss what they post as I trust CAGgers to put them back in their place, and I'd rather see them posting as themselves as pretending to be innocent bystanders who could muddy the waters a lot faster.

 

Now, if you wish to carry on your little diatribes, may I respectfully suggest that you create a thread in the Bear Garden so we can stop hijacking the OP's thread? Thank you.

 

PS: Nope, still not seen ads, and I never said to people they were talking nonsense, I instead asked them to tell me where to find such, as I myself hadn't seen any. To note that no-one has bothered to point me in the right direction yet.

[Bookworm]

Thanks BB, I have asked the team to remove the OT discussion to the Bear Garden. Apologies to OP.

[Bookworm]

Thanks, HF, but it's ok.

 

I asked for these posts to be removed from a thread which was being hijacked at OP's detriment. I personally don't care about Fester's opinion one way or another, and if he can't reason by any other way than by insults, I think it says more about him than me, so don't give it another thought.

 

Now, back to the issue at hand, which was, it seems, people putting in the same basket lowells being allowed to post and Google ads. As I said elsewhere, I was confused as I had never seen any. Thankfully, Kenny & Thailand (oh yes, and Fester, although perhaps not quite as kindly )posted screenshots for me and all became clear.

 

So now I know what I'm talking about, I can comment.

 

See below:

 

Pepipoo, FREE motoring advice etc... If you're just browsing and not logged in, this is what you get:

 

Front page:

 

 

 

and between posts on the forum:

 

 

 

 

 

or see Afterdawn, a forum giving FREE advice on authoring, IT issues etc... If you're just browsing and not logged in, this is what you get:

 

front page:

 

 

forum:

 

 

 

Anyone sees the pattern yet? FREE forums need to be paid for by someone so they can keep on being free to US. SEO, bots and spiders crawl the forum for relevance and then present ads where the words SEEM relevant, even if it's the opposite of what we'd want to see.

 

Incidentally, MSE are going to start doing that too, presumably because the cost of running such a large site is costing Martin lewis a fortune and so he is looking at subsidising those costs. Shall we boycott him too?

 

Talk of making mountains out of molehills.

[Bookworm]

Post which, as I pointed out before, named no names. If you feel it was addressed to you and whichever "gang" you feel you belong to, then that is absolutely and purely your outlook. Instead, you chose to go on a mini-trolling campaign as if I were personally responsible for everything that goes on in the forum, rightly or wrongly (but preferable wrongly since you carefully pick your bits) and now throw a tantrum because other people don't like your behaviour and are kind enough to jump to my defence (which is very nice of them and much appreciated, btw).

 

As I said on MSE, which I gather you have been following, I don't like the ads any more than you do, but I am realistic enough to see that in the failure of any other income coming in then the owners have little choice. You don't agree, YOU contact Bankfodder and propose to match the income generated by the ads £ for £ in exchange for pulling out of the Google ads scheme, I can't speak for him, but knowing his previous feelings on the subject, he probably would be quite happy to oblige.

 

if you won't do that and keep on b!tching about it, then instead of being part of the solution, you become part of the problem, as far as I am concerned. You choose to leave? It is your choice too. No doubt you'll be blaming me too for that.

[Bookworm]

Whatever drugs he's on, looks like the good stuff.

[Bookworm]

Master Yoda knock it off now otherwise you and your three other aliases could end up on moderation.

That's funny, he pretends to be Yoda when he's actually a clone. Far out, dude.

[Bookworm]

Last I hear from the Dalek, he was heading for Venice the next day and therefore thinking of me (awwww, he's a big softie really, ) so the universe may be safe for that little bit longer.