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    • Honestly you are all amazing on this site, thank you so much for your help and time. ill keep an eye out and only return when i receive a claim letter for sure also, i updated my address with amex and tsb before i even missed payments. the initial address was my family home but i dont reside there. to avoid a bombardment of letters there i have now updated my address, will they send all threats etc to the new address? Or old address?   do you reccomend i send both tsb and amex my update in address via a letter?
    • Your point 4 deals with that and puts them to strict proof .....but realistically they are not in a position to state that within their particulars they were not the creditor at the time of default but naturally assume the OC would have...so always worth challenging and if you get a DJ who knows his onions on the day may ask for further evidence from the OC internal accounts system. 
    • I see, shame, I think if a claim is 'someone was served' then proof of that should be mandatory. Appreciate your input into the WS whenever you get chance, thanks in advance
    • Paper trail off the original creditor often confirms the default and issue of a notice...not having or being able to disclose the actual copy or being able to produce a copy less so. Creditors are not compelled to keep copies of the actual default notice so you will in most cases get a reconstituted version but must contain accurate figures/dates/format.     .    
    • Including Default Notice Andy? Ok, I think this is the best I can do.. it all makes sense with references to their WS. They have included exhibits that dates don't match the WS about them, small but still.. if you're going to reference letters giving dates, then the exhibits should be correct, no? I know I redacted them too much, but one of the dates differs to the WS by a few months. IN THE ******** County Court Claim No. [***] BETWEEN: LC Asset 2 S.A.R.L CLAIMANT AND [***] DEFENDANT ************ _________________________ ________ WITNESS STATEMENT OF [***] _________________________ ________ I, [***], being the Defendant in this case will state as follows; I make this Witness Statement in support of my defence in this claim. 1. I understand that the claimant is an Assignee, a buyer of defunct or bad debts, which are bought on mass portfolios at a much-reduced cost to the amount claimed and which the original creditors have already written off as a capital loss and claimed against taxable income as confirmed in the claimant’s witness statement exhibit by way of the Deed of Assignment. As an assignee or creditor as defined in section 189 of the CCA this applies to this new requirement on assignment of rights. This means that when an assignee purchases debts (or otherwise acquires rights under a credit agreement) it also acquires certain obligations to the borrower including the duty to comply with CCA requirements (such as the rules on statements and notices and other post-contractual information). The assignee becomes the creditor under the agreement. This ensures that essential consumer protections under the CCA cannot be circumvented by assigning the debt to a third party. 2. The Claim relates to an alleged Credit Card agreement between the Defendant and Bank of Scotland plc. Save insofar of any admittance it is accepted that the Defendant has had contractual agreements with Bank of Scotland plc in the past, the Defendant is unaware as to what alleged debt the Claimant refers. 3. The Defendant requested a copy of the CCA on the 24/12/2022 along with the standard fee of £1.00 postal order, to which the defendant received a reply from the Claimant dated 06/02/2023. To this date, the Claimant has failed to disclose a valid agreement and proof as per their claim that this is enforceable, that Default Notice and Notice of Assignment were sent to and received by the Defendant, on which their claim relies. The Claimant is put to strict proof to verify and confirm that the exhibit *** is a true copy of the agreement and are the true Terms and Conditions as issued at the time of inception of the online application and execution of the agreement. 4. Point 3 is noted. The Claimant pleads that a default notice has been served upon the defendant as evidenced by Exhibit [***]. The claimant is put to strict proof to verify the service of the above in accordance with s136 and s196 Law of Property Act 1925. 5. Point 6 is noted and disputed. The Defendant cannot recall ever having received the notice of assignment as evidenced in the exhibit marked ***. The claimant is put to strict proof to verify the service of the above in accordance with s136 and s196 Law of Property Act 1925. 6. Point 11 is noted and disputed. See 3. 7. Point 12 is noted, the Defendant doesn’t recall receiving contact where documentation is provided as per the Claimants obligations under CCA. In addition, the Claimant pleads letters were sent on dates given, yet those are not the letters evidenced in their exhibits *** 8. Point 13 is noted and denied. Claimant is put to strict proof to prove allegations. 9. The Claimant did not provide a true copy of the CCA in response to the Defendants request of 24/12/2022. The Claimant further claims that the documents are sufficient to pursue a Judgement and are therefore copies of original documents in their possession. Conclusion 10. Without the Claimant providing a valid true copy of the executed Credit agreement that complies with the CCA, the Claimant has no grounds on which to enforce this alleged debt. 11. The Defendant was not given ample evidence to prove the debt and therefore was not required to enter settlement negotiations. Should the debt be proved in the future, the Defendant is willing to enter such negotiations with the Claimant. On receipt of this claim I could not recall the precise details of the agreement or any debt and sought clarity from the claimant by way of a Section 78 request. The Claimant failed to comply. I can only assume as this was due to the Claimant not having any enforceable documentation and issuing a claim in hope of an undefended default judgment.   Statement of Truth I, ********, the Defendant, believe the facts stated within this Witness Statement to be true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in it’s truth. Signed: _________________________ _______ Dated: _____________________
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Can my insurance company insist that payments can only be made via Direct Debit?

 

To be specific, I have had a policy in force for six years during which time payment has been accepted via a number of different means. However, when I phoned to make my December payment via Debit Card I was advised that this was unacceptable. I endeavoured to resolve but as we neared the festive break this became increasingly difficult. Knowing that the policy only permitted a 30 day period of grace, I hand delivered a cheque to them to cover both the December (now in arrears) plus January (offered in advance of the due date) payments. This cheque has since been cashed. A member of their staff has recently phoned me in response to my complaint made when the debit card method of payment was rejected and she tells me that my policy has now lapsed because I failed to effect payment via Direct Debit.

 

Paperwork to reinstate the policy with up to date medical declaration has been returned, but a further copy of the same came back and upon further investigation I was advised that the reason was the absence of a Direct Debit.

 

On the policy terms it does state that payment must be made in a manner acceptable to the company, and they say that such policy is either annually by Cheque or monthly by Direct Debit. but surely insisting that Direct Debit is the only acceptable means of monthly is an unfair term.

 

I have argued that by accepting payments via Debit Card, Cheque and other Electronic Funds Transfer methods that a president has been established for payment method, but they merely responded stating that this is an obligement which they no longer wish to offer.

 

I have further insisted that granting anyone open access to your account as is the case with a Direct Debit is unwise and highlighted that because my income is erratic that I may not have funds in my account on the due date and that is why I prefer to make manual payment, sometimes early, sometimes late, but never beyond the grace period afforded in the policy. Whereas having a Direct Debit in place allowing someone to attempt to draw funds that might not be available will result in the types of penalty charges that much of this site discusses.

 

I have suggested to the insurer that such an attitude may well be deemed unfair contractual terms under the European Communities (Unfair Terms in Consumer Contracts) Regulations, 1995 but they do not consider this to be the case.

 

The bottom line is that although all premiums are paid up to date I effectively have no cover because they have merely accepted my premiums and placed into suspense pending my acceptance of their Direct Debit policy.

 

I tried asking this question of the Financial Ombudsman Service and they referred me to Association of British Insurers who in turn suggested the Financial Ombudsman or the FSA, so, off I go to the FSA site where I fail to see any section under which I can record my complaint. Not very helpful are they?

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I discussed this matter with a friend recently and he had a vague recollection of a case involving a petrol company and a garage. Where the garage cancelled the direct debit and the supplier sued. He recalls that the case was whether cancelling a direct debit was no different to defaulting on payment and as such the garage was in breach of contract.

 

The argument was that goods (petrol) had been supplied and that the mechanism for payment was via direct debit. However, there was something about the fact the a direct debit was paramount to a blank cheque and that fluctuating petrol prices rendered it impossible for the garage to know what would be charged. He thinks the garage won the first round then lost on appeal. Does anyone know this case?

 

In the case of my insurance policy the payment is a set sum and payable monthly in advance. I’m sure that in such a case, and ignoring my cash flow problems, a Standing Order would suffice, but should I consent to granting a direct debit and default due to insufficient funds, have I therefore defaulted the contract?

 

The policy grants 30 days leeway for payment and I have never gone beyond this time frame, so surely the insurer demanding payment in advance and by only one method has introduced unfair terms?

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