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    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

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      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

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I sent me first letter to Abbey on Monday 31st July requesting a list of all transactions together with a p/o for £10, today Saturday 5th August I received the standard letter Abbey send out saying they are forwarding my request to the Microfisch dept along with my £10, I am now going to send off the microfisch argument letter, so fingers crossed for me.

Would like to say a big thank you to the people who set up this forum.

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What a load of dribble they talk, the microfiche is held in filing cabnets in account number order, very easy to locate, lol I should know I worked there for 10 years, tell them to contact General Investments who are the dept that deals with the fiche, they are based at Abbey House, in Milton Keynes, what she descibes is how its done but it doesnt take as long as she is making out it takes, you would retrive all the fiche required year by year, take the pile to the machine, get the account up, press a button to print, which is not a long process at all, they do have a team of people that work in micofiche just doing that job.

 

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We sent copies of transactions out to other depts, branches (when a customer has been into the branch and requested the information), we also did interest calculations for customers when they wrote in complaining that their interest was wrong, Our dept never dealt with DPA, and there was never a charge for copies of fiche at this time, I know that they have a team of people that work in the fiche department.

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Abbey make it sound like a dark basement somewhere that's full of cobwebs and staffed by people with furrows so deep on their foreheads that you could spend a weekend trecking.

 

You say that it's stored in Account Number Order. Does this mean that when another month/year is archived that it goes in the same cabinet/drawer in chronological order with the preceeding fiche?

 

What would your estimate be (in time) to get six years of transactional data from these for one account. I get the impression that for someone who's job it is to do this that it would be maybe 10 minutes or so?

 

When did you leave? Perhaps that Abbey has changed it's procedures? Maybe they've moved all the film to a disused nuclear bunker in darkest Essex?

 

Oh look, there's Porkie hovering outside my third floor window.

Abbey - Won DPA Claim - Aug 06 and got bailiffs in to recover my court costs of just £30.00

Abbey - Won Charges Refund of £1050 - Nov 06

Egg - Recovered £220 due to Customer Services misinformation - Feb 2007

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Its in a filling cabnet for each year, and put on fiche in a/c number order, yes for someone doing the job day in day out it would only take about 10 mins, they would gather the one piece of fiche for each year, then go to a fiche reader pop the fiche in find the account number then print it off, the process for one fiche is a matter of seconds to produce.

 

I left 8 years ago, but knowing the way Abbey work they wouldnt of changed that much in this time, I worked there for 10 years and things didnt change in all that time.

 

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I received 12 months of statements this morning 10th August, lol over the last 12 months I have paid £1065 in charges wowwwwwww, didnt think it was that much, wonder what it will be for the last 6 years.

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I am doing my prelem letter today, I have been sent the years worth of statements, and one month of microfiche, I will estimate the 6 years till the feel like sending me the fiche, I havent even had a response to my recorded delivery letter yet, oh well lets see what they make of my next step.

 

 

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Just wondering if this is standard practice for Abbey, I sent my prelem letter off, which they should of got yesterday, however, today I received a letter thanking me for my complaint, and as they want to investigate thoroughly it can take time, they say they will write to me in 4 weeks to let me know where they are up to.

What happened to my 40 days DOP, also in the prelem it gives them 14 days to comply, what do I do now, do I ignore this complaint letter because I think this has crossed with my prelem letter.

Birdy

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All I have received from Abbey are more complaint replies now today got the request for microfiche letter with a form to complete and asking for £10 per account, I am ignoring this as I am ready for putting my court claim in on Thursday, ohhhhhhhhhh isnt it exciting lmao.

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Abbey have sent me their Defence, and an offer of half my claim £4692.27, which I am not going to accept(gulp) just hope Im doing the right thing here:o

do you know roughly how long it takes from this point.

Birdy

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Would they have offered you that amount of money if they thought they would win in Court?;)

 

Wxx

 

Head high, stiff back, chin up and march on!:)

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Hang on in there, Lovebird," We haven`t come this far!! "I promise to do the same rejection should Abbey do this in defence...(they have until Nov.10th , following Letter of Acknowledgement....Getting exciting now , isn`t it??

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phewww now got my court date 22nd Jan, and guess what dropped through my letter box, a bundle of microfisch, the 5 years I requested, do I need to rework it all now and let the court know the new amount for the 5 years I have estemated?

 

the judge has also put it on small claims track.

 

panic panic panic panic panic :eek:

 

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ok here is where I am up to, my case comes up in court on 22nd Jan, I sent my bundle off to Abbey and handed it into the court, I should of had the bundle from Abbey by Monday 8th Jan, so far nothing, I phoned the court today and they havent received Abbey's bundle either, the court said it will be up to the judge now on the day to make his decision, is this right?

how can I prepare when I havent received Abbeys bundle?

 

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From what I've learned lately, the deadlines for Claimant's are stricter than for the Defendant. Which shouldn't be so when the Claimant is a litigant (right word for lay person?).

 

Anyway, in my opinion it won't get that far and if it does I would expect the Judge to take the fact that you haven't seen a bundle into consideration. In fact if he/she hasn't received one from abbey by then I would expect him/her to be FURIOUS!

 

watching with interest.

 

Wxxx

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Thank you Karnevil, letter done ready to take into the court tomorrow :-)

I have omitted the bit about sending a letter to Abbeys solicitors as I dont wish to prompt them of the fact they havent sent me a bundle, is this ok??

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