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    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

      Please can you advise what I need to do today to get this done. 
       

      Many thanks 
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    • Housing Association property flooding. https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/438641-housing-association-property-flooding/&do=findComment&comment=5124299
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    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

      OT APPROVED, 365MC637, FAROOQ, EVRi, 12.07.23 (BRENT) - J v4.pdf
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I had virgin installed at my old house. I had to argue to have it done, as they said someone else had left an outstanding bill, and they would't install services until it was paid.

 

After they installed it, I then got my bill and it was wrong, the customer services couldn't care less, so it took me weeks to sort it out. By which time I ended up moving....

 

The flat I was due to move into fell through however and we were left sharing a flat with my in-laws, which was fine, but they already had virgin. I called Virgin and explained the situation, they were fine with this, they said let them know when we move into a new flat that can handle virgin, and they will re-start the contact....

 

Now I was told that I had paid the bill in full, so imagine my surprise when one of the people that lived at my old address ring me and tell me that they couldn't get Virgin unless they paid MY bill....

 

I called Virgin and they claimed that another bill had been generated at my address after I had moved which I was liable for, so I had to pay out another months rental, and telephone charges.... OK...... Not the end of the world....

 

Then I moved into my new flat, I got the Virgin HD Recorder box, ot everything set up all shiny and new.... Hehe... Then I moved again downstairs to another flat (I live in a block of four)...

 

They moved my services downstairs, they charged me two months upstairs, (a month and a month ahead), then recalculated the bill and charged me again a month and a month ahead, basically meaning I paid four months bills, when I should only have paid two.

 

The guy on the phone took a payment from me after sorting the mess out, said that was it, and I didn't hear anything from virgin for two months, when I got a phone call saying they were cutting me off two weeks before I got paid for non payment of the bill...

 

It turns out my april bill had not arrived and I wasn't in credit.

 

I spoke to a manager who then was bloody rude, said they wouldn't extend the cut off date as their systems wouldn't allow it, and basically called me a liar over not recieving my letter, and a thief for having services I never paid for....

 

After a week I finally got through to someone who knew what they were doing and they extended my cut off date, and allowed me extra time to pay the bill. As well as an assurance the other manager would get in trouble, although I would never hear the outcome, so who knows what happened there!

 

Anyway, I suppose the moral of my story is, virgin customer services is a little patchy, and you have to watch the way they print thier bills, but for actual service provision, they are head and shoulders above the rest.

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