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      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

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    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

      OT APPROVED, 365MC637, FAROOQ, EVRi, 12.07.23 (BRENT) - J v4.pdf
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Council stopped taking DD, now issued summons!


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the only thing to do is to go to court.

 

let me say that councils don't expect people to go to court and that when you turn up, you will probably find that there is no time listed for you because they expect to have almost a private audience in front of magistrates and go through several hundred files in the space of an hour or two.

 

You should write to the council now, recorded delivery and tell them that you will be in court to defend the matter. Send a copy of this letter to the court -- recorded delivery along with your own note, saying that you will be attending court to defend the matter and that you have let the council know.

 

See whether you can persuade the bank to let you have a letter saying that the direct debit is in place and that there is no reason that it wouldn't have been paid. You may have difficulty getting this letter from the bank but do your best.

 

Stop dealing with the council on the telephone unless you record of the calls. Actually, it is worth dealing with him on the phone because they will say all sorts of silly things. However you must record everything. If you don't record the calls then don't use the phone.

 

When you go to court go with your bank statements and any other evidence which shows that the money would be paid. Make a note right now about the telephone calls that you have had -- who said what to whom etc.

 

When you go to court be prepared to be knocked back in that they will say they didn't expect you to be there and there is insufficient time to hear you out. They will try to usher you off somewhere -- preferably out of the building. You should refuse to leave until they have promised to repay you your costs of attending the court.

 

If they will not give you a new date at which you will be heard plus a promise to pay your costs -- which you should get from them in writing, then go to see the clerk of the court. Even though the court may be in session and the clerk will be sitting in front of a magistrate, you should scribble out a legible note, go into the court and go up to the clerk and pass the note to him or her. Say that you want to complain to the magistrates that you have been brought here on the basis of the summons and now the council telling you that there is insufficient time and that you have to go home. Tell the clerk that you want this complaint to be given to the magistrate immediately so that they can express disapproval with the council and order some costs for appearing. Don't be greedy about the costs. Just ask for five pounds. It is hugely symbolic if you can get this.

 

Hopefully, you will embarrass the council into actually listening to you instead of just processing you -- and that is what you want.

 

Get them promise you another date. They won't be able to give you a date there and then I'd get the name and telephone number of somebody that you can speak to and you will actually listen to you.

 

Finally you will have to keep phoning to make sure that they haven't "forgotten" to write to you and then later on you find that you have a judgement against you because you didn't attend.

 

Dealing with councils is a nightmare. They are out of control. They are in betrayal of their own principles and their own duties towards their constituents. They tend to treat all of their constituents as enemies and they tend to consider themselves as being under siege.

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